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Old 01-12-2007, 02:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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man diego didnt fluke. hes a better fighter than karo period and thats comin forma guy who wanted too see karo kick his ass
better fighter than karo period? eh.. karo is an amazing fighter. crazy judo, good ground game, standup is improving. the guy has way more experience under his belt as well, he was what, 16 when he started fighting professionaly? maybe diego sanchez is on a little hot streak right now, but I definitely do not think he is a better fighter than Karo. Maybe im just being stubborn though
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I am a little protective because Diego is my fave fighter but I couldn't disagree more in needing to see Riggs v. Sanchez II. Nobody expected Diego to KO Riggs, or beat Karo, or Diaz....now, nobody expects him to beat GSP.
"No but really this time, REALLY there's no way"
People say the same shit before each Diego fight. And if you call that KO lucky then every KO is lucky and if every KO is lucky then they should not be admired.....but we all do don't we? It was a devastating KO (Riggs first if I am not mistaken) and if people want to chalk it up to "Luck" then I guess Chuck Lidell/GSP/A. Silva etc. etc. are the luckiest mother****ers alive.
Even though I am not a huge Sanchez fan, I saw him winning in all of those fights (with maybe the except of Parisyan).

With that being said, I don't think Sanchez can beat St. Pierre yet. Sanchez is just not as well-rounded as St. Pierre is and has not really fought the level of competition that he has. Given a year or so, I can see him as a major threat to St. Pierre's reign, but if he fights St. Pierre this year (which is a huge possibility), I just do not see him winning.

I think the main advantages St. Pierre has over Sanchez is his striking, speed, and strength.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Even though I am not a huge Sanchez fan, I saw him winning in all of those fights (with maybe the except of Parisyan).

With that being said, I don't think Sanchez can beat St. Pierre yet. Sanchez is just not as well-rounded as St. Pierre is and has not really fought the level of competition that he has. Given a year or so, I can see him as a major threat to St. Pierre's reign, but if he fights St. Pierre this year (which is a huge possibility), I just do not see him winning.

I think the main advantages St. Pierre has over Sanchez is his striking, speed, and strength.
Rated, so what you are saying is "No but really this time, REALLY there's no way!" Totally joking, man.

I agree with you that GSP has an advantage almost everywhere. GSP should win that fight and I will probably not even come to the forum for the week before the fight but I love watching Sanchez fight. I admired his determination from the beginning and his energy blows me away. He will give GSP a battle that is for damn sure and I bet that even if he loses we will hear the last of the Diego bashing. I think the fight will be that good. Then again the Karo Sanchez fight was amazing and people still put words like "Fluke" "Lucky" etc. etc. in the same sentence with Sanchez.......if I didn't hate that shrugging smiley so much I would insert it here.
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I am a little protective because Diego is my fave fighter but I couldn't disagree more in needing to see Riggs v. Sanchez II. Nobody expected Diego to KO Riggs, or beat Karo, or Diaz....now, nobody expects him to beat GSP.
"No but really this time, REALLY there's no way"
People say the same shit before each Diego fight. And if you call that KO lucky then every KO is lucky and if every KO is lucky then they should not be admired.....but we all do don't we? It was a devastating KO (Riggs first if I am not mistaken) and if people want to chalk it up to "Luck" then I guess Chuck Lidell/GSP/A. Silva etc. etc. are the luckiest mother****ers alive.
Are you saying any KO is worth the same as any other KO? Surely we can agree that some are ...... more worthy than others.

I knew he would beat Diaz, I thought the Karo fight would be a good close fight and the Riggs fight like I said already I thought was going to end of as a Riggs KO win or Sanchez winning with his ground game. I never saw Sanchez KOing Riggs (not sure many of us honestly did) with his standup game.

Riggs has a rock for a chin and a very good striker, Sanchez average striker (getting better but with alot more room to grow) with average striking power.

I am not disrespecting Sanchez just saying the truth as I see it. Do you disagree with my accessment?

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Old 01-12-2007, 02:42 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Even though I am not a huge Sanchez fan, I saw him winning in all of those fights (with maybe the except of Parisyan).

With that being said, I don't think Sanchez can beat St. Pierre yet. Sanchez is just not as well-rounded as St. Pierre is and has not really fought the level of competition that he has. Given a year or so, I can see him as a major threat to St. Pierre's reign, but if he fights St. Pierre this year (which is a huge possibility), I just do not see him winning.

I think the main advantages St. Pierre has over Sanchez is his striking, speed, and strength.
100% agree
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the day sanchez fights st.peirre is the day he gets his ass kicked.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If it happens within the next year or so.....yuppers.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:16 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Are you saying any KO is worth the same as any other KO? Surely we can agree that some are ...... more worthy than others.

I knew he would beat Diaz, I thought the Karo fight would be a good close fight and the Riggs fight like I said already I thought was going to end of as a Riggs KO win or Sanchez winning with his ground game. I never saw Sanchez KOing Riggs (not sure many of us honestly did) with his standup game.

Riggs has a rock for a chin and a very good striker, Sanchez average striker (getting better but with alot more room to grow) with average striking power.

I am not disrespecting Sanchez just saying the truth as I see it. Do you disagree with my accessment?

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I was over generalizing when I said all KO's are the same. I can easily admit that however, looking at the rest of the facts about Sanchez and Riggs.....I would use your words to say it was an amazing KO. It was totally unexpected, beautifully executed, and finally EXACTLY what Diego needed to do to make the biggest impression on the fans. You are right Riggs has a rock solid chin, wicked punch strength, and better stand up.......and Diego Sanchez KTFO in HL reel fashion. It was amazing, not a fluke. So do you agree with this accessment. BTW, I enjoy this conversation, no hostility here and no rude cheap shots from me.
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I was over generalizing when I said all KO's are the same. I can easily admit that however, looking at the rest of the facts about Sanchez and Riggs.....I would use your words to say it was an amazing KO. It was totally unexpected, beautifully executed, and finally EXACTLY what Diego needed to do to make the biggest impression on the fans. You are right Riggs has a rock solid chin, wicked punch strength, and better stand up.......and Diego Sanchez KTFO in HL reel fashion. It was amazing, not a fluke. So do you agree with this accessment. BTW, I enjoy this conversation, no hostility here and no rude cheap shots from me.
Totally agree with everything you said, it was a sweet KO. Lets just leave it at (as we both have said) "no one expected that ending"...(LOL)...it was very "surprising" but Sanchez took full advantage of the situation.

SO do "YOU" agree with this accessement?


PS I am not sure Sanchez bashing will ever end. It seems to be a very popular subject on many MMA forums. He seems to rub people the wrong way b/c of variuos reasons. Perhaps in a year or so, assuming he keeps winning, people will let up on him.
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Diego beat Karo. It wasn't a fluke or lucky. To be a fluke or lucky would mean Diego got a lucky punch in or something.

That was a great fight and it was close. Diego won and that shouldnt take anything away from Karo,but on the other hand those who spew there dislike of some fighters shouldnt put Diego down for winning.

LOL..He won. I also agree he needs more time before fighting GSP. Diego is pretty young and is still developing. Although if he fought GSP and lost its not the end of the world. It might actually help him learn what he needs to improve on quicker. Look at GSP losing to Hughes. Losting didnt dimish his prospects for Gold.

Same thing with Koscheck he needs more time also,although he's alot older(got started in MMA later than Diego,at least I"m pretty sure Kos is a few years older..:P). I wouldnt mind seeing Koscheck go against Karo though. Kos wrestling against Karo Style might be entertaining and win or lose,Koscheck could measure his development quick that way.
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