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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-16-2007, 01:47 PM
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Ill have to agree with Jdun. Spot on. Every body is hopeing that Randy will win but really his age will affect this fight for him. Aslo Tim will just jab him until he goes down.

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post #22 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-16-2007, 01:56 PM
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Randy's age and Syvlia's size are probably the only thing preventing a Couture win. I'm still picking Randy to take the belt
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The problems that I see for Randy are not Cardio or strength, but his speed, both headspeed and footspeed. In order to shoot in for a takedown, he has to get by a punch from sylvia. If you watch belfort/couture 1, lidell/couture 2&3, and couture/vanarsedale, you will notice that as he goes in for his takedowns he leaves his chin wide open for a shot. In the belfort matchup, he got his eye gouged and lost, in the liddell matchup, well we all know what happened there, in the vanarsedale matchup, he got hit a few times attempting this but vanarsedale didn't really do much damage.

I see the militech camp viewing these tapes and Tim training for a big power punch as Randy comes in, over and over again. Boom lights out. Unless Randy comes in with a radically different strategy than he has done in his last four or five matchups, it is going to be a very short fight.

I would love to see Randy win this, but in reality, I got to give it to the oaf, and believe me, I hate saying that.
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Hey guys. New to the forum and saw this thread and had to reply. I really don't think it's going to be a quick ko from sylvia that ends the fight. I'll be both surprised and extremely disappointed if that's the result. I honestly think that couture has a good chance at beating sylvia. Now, if he were coming back to fight arlovski or cro cop for the belt I wouldn't feel as good about his chances. But, sylvia sucks. I don't even think randy's quickness (whether he is or not) will be a factor because sylvia is far from quick. He just blows and I hope and pray couture wins that fight.
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Don't worry, Couture fans, I'm not going to compare Randy to Rocky Balboa, I'd like to see him kick the crap out of Tim Sylvia as much as the next guy. Here are my thoughts on the two guys going into this fight.

Tim Sylvia:

I expect nothing different out of Sylvia then what I have seen in his last two fights. I don't expect him to be any more motivated then he was against Jeff Monson, because he's bound to think that they are both too short to strike with him and he probably feels happy with how he neutralized Monson on the ground.

I expect Sylvia to talk a big game, like he did against Monson and Arlovski at the third fight, but, like Randy said, it's really hard to talk sh*t about Randy Couture. He's a nice guy, he's an MMA legend, he's a fan favorite and everyone outside of Miletich wants to see him kick Tim's ass.

Sylvia's sprawls were weak in his Monson fight. He said he was going to sprawl and brawl, but Monson just used his low center of gravity and went right through his sprawl to put Sylvia on his back. Sylvia is heavy and so I imagine he's not the easiest guy in the world to power through, but, at least from a takedown standpoint, I see Couture putting him on his back again.

Sylvia's back game was sloppy, but effective against Monson, who couldn't get around his legs. Remember, Couture has pounded through a lot of great wrestlers and jiu-jitsu fighters between Kevin Randleman, Tito Ortiz, Jeremy Horn and Mike Van Arsdale, so Couture is a huge threat from this position and he does know how to get around legs and lay down the pound.

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Randy is the father of groundnpound, the only person who has offered that much to that aspect of MMA is Mark Coleman, and that is arguable. At any rate, Couture will do what he has always done and try to put Sylvia on his back and pound Sylvia until the ref pulls him off.

Randy is no slouch on his feet, but his shots and his pounds are his forte. Expect him to throw a few leg kicks before shooting on Sylvia. Once Couture gets in the top position expect him to pass into guard quickly, maybe before he even starts throwing strikes. His goal may be to put himself in that kind of a position with the takedown, but even if he ends up in guard, he will go for a pass, probably straight into a mounted position.

Once Randy gets on top of Sylvia and into a good position expect him to rain down strikes like crazy. The biggest difference between Couture and Monson is really the difference between what they do once they're in this position. Monson is a submission master, and so he spends a lot of time looking for subs while Couture will pound relentlessly until Sylvia gives up his back or the ref stops the fight.

Randy's submissions, towards the end of his career, looked better than ever. I don't see Randy as a pure wrestler any more, and so I expect him to take advantage of basic submissions (i.e. armbar, RNC, other chokes) if he gets the opportunity. I'm not saying I expect him to try and set up a crucifix or a north/south position or anything advanced, but that I expect him to finish with a submission if he gets the opportunity. Remember, his last career victory was a submission over Mike Van Arsdale.

My Prediction:

I expect this fight to go the ground, just like the Monson fight did. The biggest difference is that I don't see Couture wasting any time in taking position and trying to bust up Sylvia's face with punches and elbows. As far as I'm concerned, I think that Couture has a great shot at winning this fight.

I'll acknowledge that age might be a factor, but where? If you think Couture's cardio has dropped off, maybe it has, but it isn't like Sylvia has any great cardio to speak of. Talk about strength and not being able to recover as quickly, fine. I don't expect Sylvia to hit Couture with anything other than a jab, and Randy can recover from that.

If Tim Sylvia comes into this fight looking like he did against Monson, I expect this fight to end via second or third round TKO. Go Couture.

Well stated. I think Couture can beat Sylvia (and I hope he does). The key for him [Couture] is to clinch early.
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The problems that I see for Randy are not Cardio or strength, but his speed, both headspeed and footspeed. In order to shoot in for a takedown, he has to get by a punch from sylvia. If you watch belfort/couture 1, lidell/couture 2&3, and couture/vanarsedale, you will notice that as he goes in for his takedowns he leaves his chin wide open for a shot. In the belfort matchup, he got his eye gouged and lost, in the liddell matchup, well we all know what happened there, in the vanarsedale matchup, he got hit a few times attempting this but vanarsedale didn't really do much damage.

I see the militech camp viewing these tapes and Tim training for a big power punch as Randy comes in, over and over again. Boom lights out. Unless Randy comes in with a radically different strategy than he has done in his last four or five matchups, it is going to be a very short fight.

I would love to see Randy win this, but in reality, I got to give it to the oaf, and believe me, I hate saying that.
Totally share the same view...

LOL "the oaf" ...heh, I love that!
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Randy is gonna win by Disqualification. Sylvia is gonna pull a Joe Riggs and not make weight.
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i'd love to see randy win, but in all honesty...he barely has a chance. hopefully he can have some better conditioning and keep sylvia from throwing bombs with a good clinch. but even if it does go to the ground, sylvia did a pretty good job there against monson. overall: advantage sylvia

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I'm all for captain america winning and am hoping for the fairytale ending, however my real big concern is that if chuck can knock him out, im sure sylvia can knock him out, but I will be watching very closely and hoping for a new heavyweight champ, oh and if sylvia didnt make weight im sure that he would have to forfeit the belt, correct me if im wrong.
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Here are my predictions:

1) Sylvia plays it safe again and jabs Couture down to earn him an unanimous decision victory.

2) Sylvia seizes this opportunity to gain back some respect by beating Couture via KO/TKO during the later rounds.

3) Same thing as #2 (i.e. Sylvia takes Couture's comment about him at face value) but instead, Couture's mind games works and manages to screw up Sylvia's typical game plan and come out with a TKO victory via ground and pound.

I do not see Couture winning an unanimous decision victory; he either wins via KO/TKO or he loses. I am leaning towards him losing (no disrespect, but the odds are stacked against him).
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