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IronMan 01-13-2007 01:30 PM

Sylvia vs. Couture: Predictions
 
Don't worry, Couture fans, I'm not going to compare Randy to Rocky Balboa, I'd like to see him kick the crap out of Tim Sylvia as much as the next guy. Here are my thoughts on the two guys going into this fight.

Tim Sylvia:

I expect nothing different out of Sylvia then what I have seen in his last two fights. I don't expect him to be any more motivated then he was against Jeff Monson, because he's bound to think that they are both too short to strike with him and he probably feels happy with how he neutralized Monson on the ground.

I expect Sylvia to talk a big game, like he did against Monson and Arlovski at the third fight, but, like Randy said, it's really hard to talk sh*t about Randy Couture. He's a nice guy, he's an MMA legend, he's a fan favorite and everyone outside of Miletich wants to see him kick Tim's ass.

Sylvia's sprawls were weak in his Monson fight. He said he was going to sprawl and brawl, but Monson just used his low center of gravity and went right through his sprawl to put Sylvia on his back. Sylvia is heavy and so I imagine he's not the easiest guy in the world to power through, but, at least from a takedown standpoint, I see Couture putting him on his back again.

Sylvia's back game was sloppy, but effective against Monson, who couldn't get around his legs. Remember, Couture has pounded through a lot of great wrestlers and jiu-jitsu fighters between Kevin Randleman, Tito Ortiz, Jeremy Horn and Mike Van Arsdale, so Couture is a huge threat from this position and he does know how to get around legs and lay down the pound.

Randy Couture:

Randy is the father of groundnpound, the only person who has offered that much to that aspect of MMA is Mark Coleman, and that is arguable. At any rate, Couture will do what he has always done and try to put Sylvia on his back and pound Sylvia until the ref pulls him off.

Randy is no slouch on his feet, but his shots and his pounds are his forte. Expect him to throw a few leg kicks before shooting on Sylvia. Once Couture gets in the top position expect him to pass into guard quickly, maybe before he even starts throwing strikes. His goal may be to put himself in that kind of a position with the takedown, but even if he ends up in guard, he will go for a pass, probably straight into a mounted position.

Once Randy gets on top of Sylvia and into a good position expect him to rain down strikes like crazy. The biggest difference between Couture and Monson is really the difference between what they do once they're in this position. Monson is a submission master, and so he spends a lot of time looking for subs while Couture will pound relentlessly until Sylvia gives up his back or the ref stops the fight.

Randy's submissions, towards the end of his career, looked better than ever. I don't see Randy as a pure wrestler any more, and so I expect him to take advantage of basic submissions (i.e. armbar, RNC, other chokes) if he gets the opportunity. I'm not saying I expect him to try and set up a crucifix or a north/south position or anything advanced, but that I expect him to finish with a submission if he gets the opportunity. Remember, his last career victory was a submission over Mike Van Arsdale.

My Prediction:

I expect this fight to go the ground, just like the Monson fight did. The biggest difference is that I don't see Couture wasting any time in taking position and trying to bust up Sylvia's face with punches and elbows. As far as I'm concerned, I think that Couture has a great shot at winning this fight.

I'll acknowledge that age might be a factor, but where? If you think Couture's cardio has dropped off, maybe it has, but it isn't like Sylvia has any great cardio to speak of. Talk about strength and not being able to recover as quickly, fine. I don't expect Sylvia to hit Couture with anything other than a jab, and Randy can recover from that.

If Tim Sylvia comes into this fight looking like he did against Monson, I expect this fight to end via second or third round TKO. Go Couture.

JawShattera 01-13-2007 01:48 PM

coulture is going to dominate and destroy sylvia

Zender 01-13-2007 01:50 PM

I see Randy taking Tim to the fence with precision rushes & clinch work then getting the TD from there. Other than that I pretty much agree with you. :thumbsup:

KillerG 01-13-2007 01:57 PM

I hope so, even with the interview Coutoure had with Joe, Joe seemed to want Randy to win because of the fact Tim fights so he doesnt lose, instead of fighting to win.
I think this is the only reason Randy has stepped up is the fact the HW title holder is at the momment a joke. I would predict Arlovski would win Randy easily, but i think Tim best tan up the spot where his belt was so he doesnt look silly.

mma-fan13 01-13-2007 02:08 PM

Tim Sylvia; a 6'8", 265 pound monster, who is also part of the very prestige Miletich Fighting Systems Elite, will be having his toughest match of his entire mma career against Randy "The Natural" Couture. Sylvia has emense power in his right hand and can knock anyone out with it (besides "Iron Jaw" Cabbage). If Sylvia has a chance to connect with one hard power shot, and cleanly connects, he will win this match-up.

Randy Couture is a 40+ yr. old, world class greko-roman wrestler and UFC hall of famer who is defying age. If Randy can weather the blows Sylvia dishes out, take Sylvia to the ground and dish out some classic Randy Couture ground and pound, then yeah Randy will win this thing by decision or referee stoppage.

I firmly agree with ironman. I feel and hope Randy will pull this thing off by either "out cardio-ing" Sylvia or by ref stoppage. GO RANDY!!!

JawShattera 01-13-2007 02:25 PM

**** yeah go randy

brief 01-13-2007 03:33 PM

I basically agree, I just hope that Randy hasn't gotten old on us when nobody was looking. However, Tim does not have the foot speed that Chuck has, and that was very important in his losses to Chuck. He(Chuck) was able to keep skooting back, maintaining the proper strike distance. But Tim isn't that quick, so even if Randy is a little slower, I believe that he will be able to ground him, and pound him, unlike Monson, who never really intended to. There's alot of holes around those long arms to sink in shots. I hope I'm not kidding myself, I want Tim to lose soooo bad!

vandalian 01-13-2007 03:43 PM

I think that if Randy is still strong enough to take Tim down and pass guard, he'll have an excellent chance. But that's going to be tough with Tim's reach. Even if Tim decides to jab-jab-jab for most of the fight, Randy will have to be very careful not to get caught going for the big shot. All it will take is one big punch from a huge guy like Tim. Chuck only needed one.
I'll be rooting for Randy in this one, but I suspect he'll hang for five rounds, give Tim a much more exciting fight than Monson did, but still lose a close decision.

IronMan 01-13-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mma-fan13
Tim Sylvia; a 6'8", 265 pound monster, who is also part of the very prestige Miletich Fighting Systems Elite, will be having his toughest match of his entire mma career against Randy "The Natural" Couture. Sylvia has emense power in his right hand and can knock anyone out with it (besides "Iron Jaw" Cabbage). If Sylvia has a chance to connect with one hard power shot, and cleanly connects, he will win this match-up.

I wouldn't use the term "monster." Right now I'm thinking he's more of an ogre. Definitely a war against Couture.

Sylvia couldn't knock out Cabbage or Monson, and I think he landed the right multiple times in both fights.


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Randy Couture is a 40+ yr. old, world class greko-roman wrestler and UFC hall of famer who is defying age. If Randy can weather the blows Sylvia dishes out, take Sylvia to the ground and dish out some classic Randy Couture ground and pound, then yeah Randy will win this thing by decision or referee stoppage.
Randy is 43, definitely agree on the game plan.

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I firmly agree with ironman. I feel and hope Randy will pull this thing off by either "out cardio-ing" Sylvia or by ref stoppage. GO RANDY!!!
Is anyone else starting to feel this classic "good guy v bad guy" thing? Someone start the training montage!

Bonnar426 01-14-2007 12:14 AM

Well, I think Tim will back off and throw some punches and Randy will stock him. As soon as Tim realizes that backing off won't help him win the fight, he'll start to get aggressive and go on the offensive. He throw some good punches and land that one punch that will knock Randy out!


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