Originally Posted by Terror Kovenant
Bones doesn't have any credible wins yet. His stature is not too impressive either. He may be skilled, but theres nothing about him that could be called freak of nature.
Brock however is a huge hulking human being with the agility and movement of someone half his size. Is he the best HW? Not yet. Is he great at MMA? Not yet. But as an athlete, hes the sickest thing the UFC has seen.
No credible wins - OK, but he rag dolled and pounded the last two fighters he's faced - Vera and Hamill like they've never been before, both decent fighters. I don't think there are too many or any guys sitting at the top of the LHWs group sitting down with Joe Silva saying I want Jon Jones. 84 inch reach, arguably the strongest LHW, 6'4", quick movements - dominating fighter - that's freakish. If you put him on PPV he's be a solid co main-event against anyone, or main event if he had a shot at a top 5. His next fight a tv headliner atleast.
I thought the freakishness was pretty even. I haven't seen anyone do the things Jon Jones is doing to the opponents he's faced - UFC matchmakers know it, people that have watched him fight know this guy has a future of getting a title shot in the next two years, and many (like me) believe he's got tools to beat anyone in LHW right now, he'll keep dominating, getting better, win the LHW belt and stop the merry-go-round of LHWs.
Not saying Brock isn't a freak of nature ... as well, just the heavy Brock bias..
We can just end this thread.
This was supposed OBJECTIVE thread (hence my name) a little bit of oranges to tangerines questions between who's more relatively freakish to their division.
I was expecting more like:
Oooooo Brock's so big and athletic, he moves like like he's 100 pounds lighter, he blows guys away and is a 300 pound guy throwing flying knees.
But dude, has anyone ever shown the dominance and brute strength to rag doll Hammill or Vera, using Judo throws in the clinch, proper slams, combined with speed and striking. He's the future and he's only 22, he gets better every fight. When's the last time you saw a LHW GnP a guy with pummeling blows.
Nooo way Brock is sooo quick for size, he's one of a kind, he's going to negate Carwin's punching precision with his range, and superior wrestling and quickness.
Can Bones due that kind of thing to a Machida or Rampage? He's soooo unproven, you can't make judgements regardless of the dominance he's shown, Vera and Hammill are cans - he's skills will only be relevant when he faces a top 5 LHW.
Nooooo homey, I think the real freak is Carwin, his hands are so big and all first round KO/TKOs. He'll push Brock to the cage and hammer away at him with dirty boxing and knees.
You're crazy, Brock will take him down 5 seconds in to the fight, exhaust and GnP him.
Why are we even mentioning Carwin, he's not part of OP.
Bones could develop use his longest arm length range to negate Machida's backing up. And he could take down Rua, if Machida can do it, why wouldn't Bones be able to. And Rashad is athletic but he can't control people's arms and GnP once on the ground.
Whatever, my feelings are hurt, i'm never starting a thread again.