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Lance Armstrong gave himself cancer says Sonnen

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Lance Armstrong gave himself cancer says Sonnen**UPDATE** Sonnen Denies

"When you screw up, you have to own it. That stuff really gets under my skin. Take Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong did a number of things and he gave himself cancer. He cheated, he did drugs, and he gave himself cancer. Well, instead of saying ‘Hey listen, I cheated and gave myself cancer, don't be like me.' He actually made himself the victim and then went out and profited something like $15 million dollars from this ‘Hey, poor me, let's find a cure for cancer' campaign instead of just coming clean and saying, ‘Look, here's what I did, I screwed myself up, and I hope people learn from my mistakes.' You just watch these guys and can't help but think, God, what a fraud. You got the whole Michael Phelps being a pothead thing too. I'm just glad I'm in the business I'm in so I can get them in the cage and kick the crap out of them."

Well, I gotta say I didn't see this twist coming. Chael Sonnen has turned his focus away from Anderson Silva and onto Lance Armstrong. Yes, the guy who rides bicycles. When asked by Larry Pepe on Pro MMA Radio what really bothers Sonnnen, Chael all of a sudden went on this rant about the seven-time Tour de France victor. The number one middleweight contender alleges that Lance actually gave himself cancer by blood-doping and taking performance enhancing drugs. Once again, Mr. Sonnen didn't let a little thing like facts get in the way of spewing hot air. A quick Lance Armstrong search on Google reveals that the cyclist was diagnosed with testicular cancer in 1996, but won his first Tour de France while first being accused of using PED's in 1999. I'm surely not one to nitpick on facts when it comes to pre-fight trash talk, but in this case, the Oregon native has officially crossed the line. And who knows where he was going with Michael Phelps hitting the bong a couple years back. Where do you come out on this nonsense? Any cycling fans, or virtually anybody else for that matter, take offense to this garbage?
Odd rant.

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/8/3/1603328/ufc-quick-quote-chael-sonnen-says
 
#45 ·
My mother had breast cancer and I don't give care one whit about that as it relates to what Chael had to say about his ignorance over that. It's the fact that he's talking out of his ass over a subject he knows nothing about and is only using this subject to spout off his own narrow minded views.


Hype the Silva fight- it's working to perfection to make people actually care about a Silva title fight again to see the fight and see if he gets shut up or actually wins after talking so much smack. I have zero problem with that- but I don't like an ignorant jackass talking about things he knows nothing about. I hate the PC police and getting offended and calling this PC pussies reactions to this is bullshit and childish.

I'm not offended by a person who has no idea what they are talking about but acting like he knows exactly what has happened with another athlete is crap.

Hopefully after this fight he can solve who really killed JFK, slam everyone who has smoked pot and involve himself into the steroid problem in other sports to solve all those problems.

Stick to what you know otherwise you just paint yourself as an idiot. The PC argument is laughable and weak.
 
#46 ·
My mother had breast cancer and I don't give care one whit about that as it relates to what Chael had to say about his ignorance over that. It's the fact that he's talking out of his ass over a subject he knows nothing about and is only using this subject to spout off his own narrow minded views.


Hype the Silva fight- it's working to perfection to make people actually care about a Silva title fight again to see the fight and see if he gets shut up or actually wins after talking so much smack. I have zero problem with that- but I don't like an ignorant jackass talking about things he knows nothing about. I hate the PC police and getting offended and calling this PC pussies reactions to this is bullshit and childish.

I'm not offended by a person who has no idea what they are talking about but acting like he knows exactly what has happened with another athlete is crap.

Hopefully after this fight he can solve who really killed JFK, slam everyone who has smoked pot and involve himself into the steroid problem in other sports to solve all those problems.

Stick to what you know otherwise you just paint yourself as an idiot. The PC argument is laughable and weak.
which is why people getting upset and offended over this all make it all the more laughable. Dudes a douche nozzle and what comes out of his mouth should be disregarded with a proper response like this: :rolleyes: and move on.
 
#54 · (Edited)
Daaamn
I didn't realise it till now, but i think these days there's a contest between Sonnen and Toney, to see wich one is more stupid, wich one is a bigger doouche or a bigger retard.

And i have to admit it's a very close "fight". But it's a very entertaining one. Back and fourth action, Toney strikes hard, Sonnen counters beautifully with a takedown. Really exciting.
This is the best "fight" these 2 will ever put on. :sarcastic12:

I can't wait to see Sonnen starring at nothing after Silva Knocks him the f**k out.
Seriously, he is so frustrated and desperate for attention that he doesn't know what else to do.
What next?!!? Maybe he will trashtalk some athletes who take part in the Paralympics?! Common Chael, why not? Maybe there are some who injured themselves on purpose just to get simpathy and be paralympians?? Can you do it Chael?!?
Pathetic.
 
#58 ·
It's possible that Chael meant this figuratively. No one's thrown that out there yet. Reading the quote I really didn't get the vibe that he was trying to make a medical diagnosis so much as he was trying to say that Lance Armstrong's a shitty individual. I don't have an opinion on Armstrong, just saying.

Anyway Sonnen is crazy as hell and damn good at getting attention. To me this kind of off the wall shit will just make it that much more epic if Chael can get the win.
 
#60 ·
What Sonnen says is highly douchy and insensitive, but IMO it's somewhat true. It's just that we're groomed to be so politically correct that people like Lance or Michael J. Fox are untouchable because they support chemical "cures" for their diseases that in their case were probably acquired through reckless lifestyle choices.

Cancer, Parkinson's etc. are all lifestyle diseases that hardly existed 50 years ago but are rampant now, they are caused by pumping the body full of artificial chemicals (carcinogens and toxins) that toy with it's natural control mechanisms and were never meant to be in the body, all in the name of "science" and short term gain whether it's physical enhancement or recreational pleasure. Metaphorically speaking, Cancer is nothing more than cells in the body going rogue after being subjected to more and more horrible shit than they are willing to take.

This is not a shot at everyone who has Cancer or Parkinson's or any modern degenerative disease ... unfortunately we live in an age where carcinogens and toxins are everywhere, in food pesticides, fertilizers, artificial food colors and additives like aspertame, GM food, air pollution, pharma, water supply (through "treated" industrial pollutants), toxic chemical dies on clothes, radiation, X-Rays and so on in addition to lifestyle choices like heavily chemicalized cigarettes, lack of anti-carcinogenic fresh fruits and veggies etc in diet and so on. It's not always people's fault that they get these diseases in such an environment where it's near impossible to avoid such things completely, but our choices often have more to do with it than we like to admit, specially if it is at a young age.

So Lance probably did give himself Cancer from the steroids he did on top of the general exposure that we all have... just look at his wiki page, it's one long list of steroid scandals and accusations after another, many only shut out because the witnesses mysteriously bailed out (bribed) in court after their solid testimonies outside it. That combined with the fact that he broke all possible records beyond normal human ability that have stayed untouched for decades. It's not 100% proven, but it is likely. Same way Fox's alcoholism along with Hollywood's usual drugged out lifestyle may have had something to do with him getting Parkinson's.

And yes, Steroids can give you Cancer, due in part to the massive testosterone/estrogen imbalances they cause and also since steroids cause abnormal uncontrolled growth of cells, which is exactly what cancer is ... when uncontrolled cell growth goes bad.

http://www.emaxhealth.com/33/2057.html

In the same way, Parkinson's is a degenerative brain disease caused by neuron destroying chemicals and lifestyles like chronic alcoholism, massive doses of chemical brain altering drugs and psychedelics and so on in addition to the general toxicity of the world we live in.

Making yourself a Messiah and promoting "cures" for these toxic diseases with even more toxic medicine systems in not the answer IMO. Chemotherapy is nothing but big business making money from the poor victims of these diseases, poisoning the system further and reducing patients to helpless, tortured souls that have a survival rate of 33%, no higher than that without chemo.

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/fraud/chemo.htm

So really, IMO people don't really survive cancer because of Chemo but in spite of it. I know someone who had Cancer and refused all these treatments, and just made lifestyle changes like a lot of fresh green veggies, no artificial diet, no chemical "meds" and so on and not only survived but is still alive more than a decade later. I'm not saying it always works, but the survival rate is just as high as chemo's meager 33%. I also have lots of grandparents and aunts who I watched suffer through almost a year of Chemo torture with everyone telling them how "brave" and "inspirational" they were being only to end up dead as any untreated person, except with a horrendously torturous last year of their lives that is still traumatizing for us to recall.

I no longer think "Cancer Cure" foundations are anything more than big pharma ploys. The very people encouraging chemical dependencies are telling you they're working on miracle "cures" .. just pop a magic pill and it's over. IMO The real world doesn't work like that, every disease has a lifestyle cause ... like poor hygiene, improper/processed/artificial diet, lack of exercise, stress etc. .. and "cures" involve making good life choices more than billion dollar donations to magic companies that'll make it all go away.

Still a douchy, insensitive thing for Sonnen to say, but just saying ... IMHO it's not all black and white.
 
#66 ·
I hope Anderson Silva's knee comes out the back of Sonnen's skull.

In five years, someone will say "Chael has to admit he screwed up...he talked trash and talked trash and then stepped into the cage with a pissed off Anderson Silva...he gave HIMSELF that massive brain damage....OWN IT, dude."

F Sonnen.
 
#68 ·
Lance Armstrong did not get cancer due to PED, he probably used them AFTER he got and recovered from cancer. It has never been proven that he used PED.

However, his major results and all 7 Tour de France victories came AFTER he got cancer. SO he is not a victim of his own habits.
On the contrary, he not only survived cancer, but proceded to make the greatest comeback in cycling, winning the toughest race a record holding 7 times.

Chael does not know what he is talking about.
 
#70 · (Edited)
Thanks for the vid, for some reason my laziness precluded me for finding that myself on youtube, haha. Love it.

It's hard to get a read on the guy. Never said anything of Lance Armstrong? So this thread we have here that's currently 7 pages long is for nothing? Ah Chael. You're telling the truth when you're lying and lying when you tell the truth.

Saturday will be fun. I'm still predicting a Round 1 KO for AS though.
 
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