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post #51 of 115 (permalink) Old 08-04-2010, 12:08 AM
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Since when does steroid leads to cancer? Sonnen crossed the line this dude seriously needs his ass kicked. Its one thing to talk shit but then its another to talk shit outside ur profession.
I duno

Stupid uneducated statement from Sonnen but IMHO Armstrong was part of a systematic doping program since his amateur days. I know a thing or two about the sport and about Lance having competed at a fairly high level myself some 15+ years ago.

By Chaelís rationale in 40 years when he comes down with Prostate cancer and ends up pissing in a bag and having a permanent limp noodle we can all assume he did it to himself with steroids?

I think some of what he says is funny and often close to the mark but he seems to be losing the script now that the fight is drawing near.

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is anyone rootin for Sonnen?
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is anyone rootin for Sonnen?
I was, but this really got to me.
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I didn't realise it till now, but i think these days there's a contest between Sonnen and Toney, to see wich one is more stupid, wich one is a bigger doouche or a bigger retard.

And i have to admit it's a very close "fight". But it's a very entertaining one. Back and fourth action, Toney strikes hard, Sonnen counters beautifully with a takedown. Really exciting.
This is the best "fight" these 2 will ever put on.

I can't wait to see Sonnen starring at nothing after Silva Knocks him the f**k out.
Seriously, he is so frustrated and desperate for attention that he doesn't know what else to do.
What next?!!? Maybe he will trashtalk some athletes who take part in the Paralympics?! Common Chael, why not? Maybe there are some who injured themselves on purpose just to get simpathy and be paralympians?? Can you do it Chael?!?



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Originally Posted by marcthegame View Post
Since when does steroid leads to cancer?
Steroids have this little side effect that makes cells grow and reproduce including cancer cells. Some steroids (mainly the illegal ones) increase the risk for heart diseases, strokes, cancer and whatnot. Uncontrolled growth is not a good thing.

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is anyone rootin for Sonnen?
Im still Rooting for him!!! WAR SONNEN!!! Dry Hump Silva to DEATH for all i care.

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post #57 of 115 (permalink) Old 08-04-2010, 02:14 AM
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"Chael Sonnen is Special Olympics."

So am I the only one here that thinks Chael went to far with this one?

As much as I hate to say it he's right, Lance Armstrong is one nutty dude.
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post #58 of 115 (permalink) Old 08-04-2010, 04:08 AM
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It's possible that Chael meant this figuratively. No one's thrown that out there yet. Reading the quote I really didn't get the vibe that he was trying to make a medical diagnosis so much as he was trying to say that Lance Armstrong's a shitty individual. I don't have an opinion on Armstrong, just saying.

Anyway Sonnen is crazy as hell and damn good at getting attention. To me this kind of off the wall shit will just make it that much more epic if Chael can get the win.
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BREAKING NEWS!!! Chael Sonnen is a douche...
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post #60 of 115 (permalink) Old 08-04-2010, 04:12 AM
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What Sonnen says is highly douchy and insensitive, but IMO it's somewhat true. It's just that we're groomed to be so politically correct that people like Lance or Michael J. Fox are untouchable because they support chemical "cures" for their diseases that in their case were probably acquired through reckless lifestyle choices.

Cancer, Parkinson's etc. are all lifestyle diseases that hardly existed 50 years ago but are rampant now, they are caused by pumping the body full of artificial chemicals (carcinogens and toxins) that toy with it's natural control mechanisms and were never meant to be in the body, all in the name of "science" and short term gain whether it's physical enhancement or recreational pleasure. Metaphorically speaking, Cancer is nothing more than cells in the body going rogue after being subjected to more and more horrible shit than they are willing to take.

This is not a shot at everyone who has Cancer or Parkinson's or any modern degenerative disease ... unfortunately we live in an age where carcinogens and toxins are everywhere, in food pesticides, fertilizers, artificial food colors and additives like aspertame, GM food, air pollution, pharma, water supply (through "treated" industrial pollutants), toxic chemical dies on clothes, radiation, X-Rays and so on in addition to lifestyle choices like heavily chemicalized cigarettes, lack of anti-carcinogenic fresh fruits and veggies etc in diet and so on. It's not always people's fault that they get these diseases in such an environment where it's near impossible to avoid such things completely, but our choices often have more to do with it than we like to admit, specially if it is at a young age.

So Lance probably did give himself Cancer from the steroids he did on top of the general exposure that we all have... just look at his wiki page, it's one long list of steroid scandals and accusations after another, many only shut out because the witnesses mysteriously bailed out (bribed) in court after their solid testimonies outside it. That combined with the fact that he broke all possible records beyond normal human ability that have stayed untouched for decades. It's not 100% proven, but it is likely. Same way Fox's alcoholism along with Hollywood's usual drugged out lifestyle may have had something to do with him getting Parkinson's.

And yes, Steroids can give you Cancer, due in part to the massive testosterone/estrogen imbalances they cause and also since steroids cause abnormal uncontrolled growth of cells, which is exactly what cancer is ... when uncontrolled cell growth goes bad.

In the same way, Parkinson's is a degenerative brain disease caused by neuron destroying chemicals and lifestyles like chronic alcoholism, massive doses of chemical brain altering drugs and psychedelics and so on in addition to the general toxicity of the world we live in.

Making yourself a Messiah and promoting "cures" for these toxic diseases with even more toxic medicine systems in not the answer IMO. Chemotherapy is nothing but big business making money from the poor victims of these diseases, poisoning the system further and reducing patients to helpless, tortured souls that have a survival rate of 33%, no higher than that without chemo.

So really, IMO people don't really survive cancer because of Chemo but in spite of it. I know someone who had Cancer and refused all these treatments, and just made lifestyle changes like a lot of fresh green veggies, no artificial diet, no chemical "meds" and so on and not only survived but is still alive more than a decade later. I'm not saying it always works, but the survival rate is just as high as chemo's meager 33%. I also have lots of grandparents and aunts who I watched suffer through almost a year of Chemo torture with everyone telling them how "brave" and "inspirational" they were being only to end up dead as any untreated person, except with a horrendously torturous last year of their lives that is still traumatizing for us to recall.

I no longer think "Cancer Cure" foundations are anything more than big pharma ploys. The very people encouraging chemical dependencies are telling you they're working on miracle "cures" .. just pop a magic pill and it's over. IMO The real world doesn't work like that, every disease has a lifestyle cause ... like poor hygiene, improper/processed/artificial diet, lack of exercise, stress etc. .. and "cures" involve making good life choices more than billion dollar donations to magic companies that'll make it all go away.

Still a douchy, insensitive thing for Sonnen to say, but just saying ... IMHO it's not all black and white.
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