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Old 01-26-2007, 10:58 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Herring has not fought in PRIDE for two years and three months. He is not a PRIDE fighter.
You could say that about CroCop, because his last fight was actually in PRIDE.

Overall, Heath's performance was terrible, but styles make fights.
What I do not understand is why the UFC contracted that O'Brien guy. This guy is BORING!
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I love it when UFC fans say stupid sh*t.

In a PRIDE ring, O'brien would have been yellow carded and possibly even DQ'd on points if he had kept that up.

No more layngay. Please wrestlers, if you are going to come to this sport, watch Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman and Randy Couture. Not Tito Ortiz.
Make excuses all day. Heath doesen't have a sprawl. Couldn't prevent a no name from mounting him at will. Gave up his back constantly. The reason he didn't get hit that much is he kept rolling over. Obrien could have taken him down and got back up and done it again the entire fight. Heath looked slow, his punches were as telegrahped as you could make them and basically he looked horrible. If O'brien had a little better Sub skills Heath would have been gone in the first round.

I'll tell you what none of that would have happened to Sylvia. Cause the guy can sprawl. Maybe Herring should go train with the militech boys??????

I'll say it again the Pride nuthuggers might need to rethink their opinions.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Becasue everyone and their mother on here was talking about this guy being one of the 'elite' fighters that would walk through the talent inferior UFC and how he was gonna beat up Tim Sylvia and yadda yadda. So its funny watching these Pride fan boys have to wipe egg off their faces.


Now God I hope Eddie Sanchez knocks Cro Cop TFO. Man would that really make my day.


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I love it how you just gave yourself the advatage there. If Eddie flukes out and lands a lucky shot you ll say " I told you so". If Eddie loses (which he will) you wont say a thing...You re by far the bravest person on this forum, making these super predicitons. I applaude you.
Herring in not a Pride fighter, I made very legitimate post in another thread about how talent comes and goes. Herring is a UFC fighter. HE didnt belong in Pride and left for elsewhere, how can he be the face of Pride? And why would any PRIDE 'fanboys' have to wipe the egg of their faces. I dont see how this makes any sense (Herring hasnt fought in Pride for over 2years).
Then again, some ppl just have to make a retarded comments beucause they are so insecure about themselves and like to diminish other ppl's worths by making 'legitimate arguments' with absolutely no backing.
Tell me you re not being full of yourself, and I might actually take your opinion seriously (as a true UFC AND PRIDE fan that I am).
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:45 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Herring has not fought in PRIDE for two years and three months. He is not a PRIDE fighter.
You could say that about CroCop, because his last fight was actually in PRIDE.

Overall, Heath's performance was terrible, but styles make fights.
What I do not understand is why the UFC contracted that O'Brien guy. This guy is BORING!
Well how about when Anderson Silva beat Rich Franklin. Even though Silva had 5 matches in PRIDE and then moved on to cage rage, people were spouting thier sh*t that PRIDE is better then UFC talent. That even PRIDE's worst performers (people were refering to Silva) can dominate UFC's best fighters. That's just total garbage!
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:47 AM   #25 (permalink)
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This match just proved that Heath is worse even in the UFC.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:48 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I love it how you just gave yourself the advatage there. If Eddie flukes out and lands a lucky shot you ll say " I told you so". If Eddie loses (which he will) you wont say a thing...You re by far the bravest person on this forum, making these super predicitons. I applaude you.
Herring in not a Pride fighter, I made very legitimate post in another thread about how talent comes and goes. Herring is a UFC fighter. HE didnt belong in Pride and left for elsewhere, how can he be the face of Pride? And why would any PRIDE 'fanboys' have to wipe the egg of their faces. I dont see how this makes any sense (Herring hasnt fought in Pride for over 2years).
Then again, some ppl just have to make a retarded comments beucause they are so insecure about themselves and like to diminish other ppl's worths by making 'legitimate arguments' with absolutely no backing.
Tell me you re not being full of yourself, and I might actually take your opinion seriously (as a true UFC AND PRIDE fan that I am).
Coming to Pogo's defense here. Heath is a Pride fighter the majority of his career was in PRIDE. and every one considers him a PRIDE fighter. No one considers him a WFA fighter. Wake up. And their were tons of people saying how Herring would walk through his UFC opponents due to his PRIDE background. So his comment on PRIDE people wiping eggs of their face makes perfect sense. The point is Herring looked better against top PRIDE competition than he did against O'Brien.
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:01 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Coming to Pogo's defense here. Heath is a Pride fighter the majority of his career was in PRIDE. and every one considers him a PRIDE fighter. No one considers him a WFA fighter. Wake up. And their were tons of people saying how Herring would walk through his UFC opponents due to his PRIDE background. So his comment on PRIDE people wiping eggs of their face makes perfect sense. The point is Herring looked better against top PRIDE competition than he did against O'Brien.
Yes..Everyone expected him to be much better. Doenst mean he wont show up the next time around.
In my defense, he fought in Pride over two years ago, if you watched the fights (not just saw the stats on sherdog), youd know hes not the same fighter.
And I ll bring up the same thing I alyways do when ppl make IMO retarded comments; Horn submitted Chuck 7 years ago - therefore UFC sucks. :SARCASM:
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:16 PM   #28 (permalink)
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PRIDE nuthugging needs to stop. No one runs around saying how much better UFC fighters are than PRIDE fighters. UFC fans don't turn up their noses to their PRIDE counterparts. But PRIDE fans think they need to point out that the UFC is inferior. It doesen't look that way today does it??????
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:38 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Herring has not fought in PRIDE for two years and three months. He is not a PRIDE fighter.
You could say that about CroCop, because his last fight was actually in PRIDE.

Overall, Heath's performance was terrible, but styles make fights.
What I do not understand is why the UFC contracted that O'Brien guy. This guy is BORING!

I know Jake from highschool and I have seen almost every one of his fights. He usually is a lot more active and fun to watch. To be honest though lets look at the situation.

Jake was set up against Herring to get beat down.

Jake was dominating Herring on the ground and doing whatever he wanted to him.

Even when they were standing up for the first minute and a half of the 1st round, it was more boring than Jake dominating him on the ground.

Jake knew that he had the fight won as long as he didn't make any stupid mistakes, so why and try and go for more than you must to get the win?

There was no reason for Jake to try and do anything more than he did because there was no way Herring was going to beat him on the ground. Jake usually is more fun to watch though, so give him some time before you make your judgements. He hold the record for the fastest KO in the United Fight League. He can throw also, he's not just a wrestler, but once again why play to your opponets strength?
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:41 PM   #30 (permalink)
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PRIDE nuthugging needs to stop. No one runs around saying how much better UFC fighters are than PRIDE fighters. UFC fans don't turn up their noses to their PRIDE counterparts. But PRIDE fans think they need to point out that the UFC is inferior. It doesen't look that way today does it??????
Yeah...I completely disagree with what you just said. Many people 'run around' saying UFC is much better than PRIDE, you just made that up, doesnt make it an argument.
When you say UFC fans, you mean 'exclusive UFC fans', please try to make that clear - I am a HUGE UFC fan. I am also a HUGE PRIDE fan.
Most American PRIDE fans are UFC fans!!! They just prefer PRIDE. There is not nearly as many exclusive PRIDE fans as there is exclusive UFC fans in America.
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