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Old 09-06-2010, 07:26 AM   #41 (permalink)
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How may I ask is the USA the best in Freestyle wrestling, the last gold medal was Cejudo back in Beijing!
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Going mainly by the # of medals overall not just the recent individual victories, as it tells more about the wrestling program overall not just the individual athletes. Never said USA has the best freestyle wrestlers right now anyway and that would be pretty irrelevant as I doubt any of them would train with Bisping anyway. I do think they have the best freestyle wrestling program, coaches and experience though.

Anyway USA is sitting at 108 medals out of 555 total medals won from freestyle which is pretty damn impressive. Like I said though Europe is superior at Greco-roman, Finland and Sweden for example have 58 and 56 medals from it while USA is at only 14, and we are talking about 2 countries with less than 10m people each. I wonder why greco isn't as popular in usa though... It is a shame really, because I think its better for mma than freestyle as you focus more on body control and clinch game than shooting which plays a key role in freestyle.

In my Personal Opinion. USA and Russia are the best at wrestling.
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Old 09-06-2010, 07:47 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Yeah i'm pretty sure they are friends and bisping was just taking the piss out of him, also his twitter comment on chael was taken out of context too, straight after he wrote it, he said something like "nah just joking, chaels great"
Clint Eastwood is a living legend. I just watched Unforgiven last week (dont know why it took me so long) and it was unbelievably good. Off topic yea, but that needed to be said.

At first i thought Bisping was serious about Hardy, looks like he was taking the piss.
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Sonnen vs Bisping is fight that would bring a lot of $ to the UFC, that's for sure.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:58 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Yeah, that is what Randy focuses on nowadays being a slower guy!
That too, and its not like Greco-Roman wrestlers don't have experience on freestyle too.
Randy vs. Gabe is good example of greco roman dominance though, controlling the body of bigger & stronger guy on clinch while dirty boxing, only taking him down at the end of the fight. Cain vs. Rothwell is another great example of perfect body control without really shooting or focusing on legs during the takedowns at cage at all.

Both are great backgrounds though and even though versatility is the for success at mma I do think that focusing more on the specific part on some of the arts makes it apply better for mma when you mix it up with other styles too from different arts. For example there is some Judo and Sambo practioners doing mma and while submissions and ground game does play a part on them too it is such a small role compared to something like jitsu (specially no-gi bjj) which is why majority of the submission specialists come with jitsu background. A mix of both though has a great synergy though.

I would really like to see more high level judokas switching to mma too, by high I mean Jacara/Maia/Werdum -high. IF a guy like karo, a guy who never even qualified to olympics at judo (he won several junior championships and was in olympic trials though) can toss people around pretty much at will like he did before his pain killer addiction and other crap, imagine what multiple gold medal winning judokas could do.
Personally I'm following Satoshi Ishii closely right now. He won gold medal in 100kg+ (200~ + pound) division at 2008 olympics and had 2 mma fights so far. He is a 3rd dan judo black belt and bjj brownbelt and is only 23 years old, can go really far with his career still if he chooses to. I'd recommend him dropping down to LHW though.

Here is his second mma fight btw:

that is why judo at mma is so awesome though when combined with decent enough jitsu too, a good trip or hip throw and you are in side control already, if you got sub game to work from there you are pretty damn deadly.

Anyway, I'm going a bit offtopic here... I s till think Bisping is a dumbass if he keeps standing behind his "uk all the way!" -bs. He'll never improve enough if he doesn't expand his training circles.
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:47 PM   #45 (permalink)
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When you are talking about combining judo with BJJ you are talking about using techniques from both the origina sport and the child sport, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me!
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:42 PM   #46 (permalink)
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"I'd love to fight Chael Sonnen. He's looking phenomenal. ...I think personally he's a bit of a tool to be honest. He's awesome at promoting a fight, but he's delusional and he's so far up his own arse it's unbelievable".
This made me laugh purely out of sadness.
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cant really compare what Bisping says to what Chael says.

Chael talks about "being the best", "beating every champion ever at MW", "easily taking the LHW title if i wanted", "never losing at MW" etc etc etc

Chael is his own biggest fan by far, which he has in common with Bisping. Bisping isnt as crazy with his assertions of greatness as Chael is.
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Yeah Chael is kind've all over the place with his claims of fame and all that. Bisping is a little more humble if that word could ever be applied to him!
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When you are talking about combining judo with BJJ you are talking about using techniques from both the origina sport and the child sport, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me!
It does. Judo DOES have ground game and submission game on it too, but it plays very small role and isn't focused on as much as jitsu practioners focus on the submission game, plus the transitions, sweeps and guard game overall don't play a huge role even in the original non sport version.

So yes, the non sport version of judo focuses on the submissions too, but not as much as a disciple that focuses almost entirely on the submission game. This is also why I think getting best of both, mainly takedowns from judo and submission game from no gi jitsu will be the most efficient. Imagine someone like Maia or Werdum with a judo blackbelt, instead of doing their inefficient shooting or guard pulling from clinch they could go for basic judo trips or more advanced hip tosses where you basically end up in side control already.
I forgot how I managed to get this sidetracked though... But either way I wanna see more high level judokas in mma, because I think it has a great synergy with other arts.
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