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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-29-2010, 04:36 PM Thread Starter
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I just wanted to point out a couple of observations Ive made over the past few months and just wanted to get some discussion going on whether they make sense or Im reading too much into things.

The first thing I wanted to discuss was this title of "baddest man on the planet''.

I think I first started hearing it (in the UFC) during the Brock vs. Carwin fight. I believe both Rogan and Goldie mentioned it a couple of times.
For some reason, I felt like it was an jab directed specifically towards Fedor and his camp. Didnt they do a 1 hour special on Fedor called 'The baddest man on the planet'?
Do you think its just coincidence or did that 1 hour special really get under Dana's skin?

The second thing I was wondering about, was why BJ got an immediate rematch against Edgar.
I think the main reason why BJ got the rematch was because the UFC did not want to lose the prestige of having the best lightweight in the world.
I think they were very aware that when BJ lost, it opened up discussion to who could possibly be ranked above him and the UFC wanted to prove they had the best (in BJ Penn). So the rematch was not based on merit, it was based on the fact that the UFC wanted to keep control of the #1 spot.

Anyways, I always look at the UFC as a business and not so much a sports organization. Whenever decisions are made, the first things I wonder are "How is this making them money"? "HOw is this helping them keep control of the market?"

Just wondering what you guys think of this stuff.

Pretty open ended question...Whatever. Hope its worth discussing.
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-29-2010, 04:47 PM
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I thought they were using the "baddest man on the planet" as marketing just like how Lesnar vs Carwin was called "the biggest HW bout in UFC history". The sheer size of both guys in the fight, who is the better huge mongoloid...hence forth; baddest man on the planet.

As for penn's immediate rematch, I always thought that was BJ using his leverage and muscle moreso than the UFC.
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Well with "baddest man on the planet" its probably a bit of both. They probably wanted to try and take it from Fedor but its not like baddest man on the planet is original to Fedor. Now if they had said the fight would determine the "Last Emperor" then yeah it would of been completely directed at Fedor.

BJ getting a rematch probably was in hopes to establish him as the #1 LW in peoples eyes. However I would say BJ deserved it. He was champion for a long time and didn't get completly dominated.

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The rematch for BJ also came as a result of the first fight being pretty close in the eyes of some...
That combined with public interest and BJ swinging his weight around made it happen

At least that's how I see it

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Hmm i could be terribly wrong but didn't "the badest man on the planet" start back in boxing? seems like a term thats been around fighting longer than Fedor.
Also the Penn/Edgar decision was very close and I am one of the ppl that think Penn won the first fight. So nothing strange about that. We had a poll here and I think more than 50% voted that Penn won.
Other than that yes I do agree that the UFC is a buisness first and that always weighs in on these type of decisions.
So it could be a little of both. I mean UFCs primary goal is to make money, but to continue doing so they have to please the fans, so they can't do too outragous stuff. The shit they can get away with i'm sure they will try.
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Penn getting an instant title shot isn't that crazy. He probably has the most underserved title shots of anyone in the UFC.
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-30-2010, 10:17 AM
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Dana knows Fedor is good but has to say he sucks because he doesn't make money for uncle Dana.

hence why he promotes Lesnar Vs Carwin as the best 2 HW's

BJ got a immediate rematch because many fans and journalists including myself thought he won the first fight.

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I'm pretty sure that term was coined for Mike Tyson.
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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-30-2010, 10:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure Tyson used it but I would be surprised if he was the first.
I remember seeing a interview a little ways back where Tyson said it was his preferred nickname since it sold more tickets lol. Come to think of it, I think that interview happened just a bit before they started calling the Lesnar/Carwin fight the fight for baddest man on the planet, hmmm...

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