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Old 10-01-2010, 06:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Vitor's striking is in a different class than Leben.
Vitor's skill is in a different class than Leben.

Vitor is not going to blindly walk into shots, just to prove how "granite" his chin is. Vitor has common sense, and will only take shots when necessary.

Vitor is a bigger fighter than Henderson. Henderson is a good fighter with a granite chin, but IMO, Vitor has more power, weight, and can do more damage. Just go back and watch a few of Vitor's fights..

It's been a while since Vitor has fought seriously.. so we all tend to forget how dangerous and skilled Vitor really is.

I also think this is A. Silva's most dangerous fight of his career.

Either way.. im stoked.. i can't wait till this fight happens !
My post was in direct response to the post that I quoted.

"Vitor can stand in there and take it,"
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Finally a decent striker is facing Anderson , rather than feeding him grappler's to make him look good and he still fails at that.
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silva will avoid vitors punches and make him look like a bitch then we'll get marquart vs silva which will again be won by silva.
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silva will avoid vitors punches and make him look like a bitch then we'll get marquart vs silva which will again be won by silva.
Which will set up perfectly the triumphant return of the Middleweight division's once and future King, Chael Sonnen!
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silva will avoid vitors punches and make him look like a bitch then we'll get marquart vs silva which will again be won by silva.
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Which will set up perfectly the triumphant return of the Middleweight division's once and future King, Chael Sonnen!
quiz time

What do those 3 Silva opponents have in common?
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Finally a decent striker is facing Anderson , rather than feeding him grappler's to make him look good and he still fails at that.
Exactly and I have been saying this for a while. Its one thing to knock out non technical brawler like Leben who has chin and KO power but not so much technique and speed. Vitor's hand speed and boxing > Silva's, Silva has more versatile striking game overall though with knees and kicks taken into account. Should be a nice fight, and people who are still hyping up Silva's striking; see how well Sonnen, possibly the guy with worst striking out of top 10 MWs did against Silva standing.
There is a reason why Soares wanted to avoid Silva vs. Vitor so badly during the Hendo-Nate-Vitor drama.
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Exactly and I have been saying this for a while. Its one thing to knock out non technical brawler like Leben who has chin and KO power but not so much technique and speed. Vitor's hand speed and boxing > Silva's, Silva has more versatile striking game overall though with knees and kicks taken into account. Should be a nice fight, and people who are still hyping up Silva's striking; see how well Sonnen, possibly the guy with worst striking out of top 10 MWs did against Silva standing.
There is a reason why Soares wanted to avoid Silva vs. Vitor so badly during the Hendo-Nate-Vitor drama.
riight, his striking is overrated because sonnen hit him omg he sucks...hes the most precise striker in the UFC, his technique is crazy good and his footwork is just incredible, i cant remember who said it now, but during the open sparring before the silva sonnen fight someone mentioned how AS was sparring and was dodging all the guys strikes just by watching the dudes feet...

to say AS doesnt have good striking is just to blindly hate on the guy or you simply dont understand what good striking is

every1 has an off night, the fact that sonnen landed some punches doesnt mean AS' striking isnt good

clearly serra is a better striker than GSP also

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Anderson has a fantastic chin.

Vitor does not.

Anderson is mentally strong.


Vitor is not.


I just dont know, Vitor obv has the punchers chance but with Andersons head movement and his great chin, its a very longshot he will catch him early, Anderson will layback and get his rhythm like always early.

Vitor leaves holes when he flurries plus he gases. I just dont think his prospects are bright in this fight.

Ppl say Anderson hasnt beaten a great striker. Well tell me, who was the last great striker Belfort beat?? Wanderlei and Yvel a hundred years ago??

The game has evovled and Anderson is at the head of the pack, an aggressive boxer who leaves openings, doesnt threaten TDs and tends to gas is an easy target for Anderson imo

Belfort hasnt faced anybody the likes of Anderson Silva, he will get his lead leg kicked to hell and countered on everything he throws and have a hell of a time finding Andersons chin and even if he does, he needs to hit the right spot cuz that man can take a shot.

If Vitor wins, ill be stunned but with the power he has early, its not impossible.

Anderson is much too smart to engage in big exchanges very early, he will play the cat and mouse game and frustrate Vitor and the fans a bit til he finds his rhythm and Vitors timing.......
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Anderson has a fantastic chin.

Vitor does not.

Anderson is mentally strong.


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I just dont know, Vitor obv has the punchers chance but with Andersons head movement and his great chin, its a very longshot he will catch him early, Anderson will layback and get his rhythm like always early.

Vitor leaves holes when he flurries plus he gases. I just dont think his prospects are bright in this fight.

Ppl say Anderson hasnt beaten a great striker. Well tell me, who was the last great striker Belfort beat?? Wanderlei and Yvel a hundred years ago??

The game has evovled and Anderson is at the head of the pack, an aggressive boxer who leaves openings, doesnt threaten TDs and tends to gas is an easy target for Anderson imo

Belfort hasnt faced anybody the likes of Anderson Silva, he will get his lead leg kicked to hell and countered on everything he throws and have a hell of a time finding Andersons chin and even if he does, he needs to hit the right spot cuz that man can take a shot.

If Vitor wins, ill be stunned but with the power he has early, its not impossible.

Anderson is much too smart to engage in big exchanges very early, he will play the cat and mouse game and frustrate Vitor and the fans a bit til he finds his rhythm and Vitors timing.......
Exactly my thoughts. Belfort's skills aren't nearly as technical, or strategic as Silva's. He hasn't fought anyone of comparative challenge is quite some time and his mind is comparatively weak. Silva by (T)KO rnd 3 or 4.
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riight, his striking is overrated because sonnen hit him omg he sucks...hes the most precise striker in the UFC, his technique is crazy good and his footwork is just incredible, i cant remember who said it now, but during the open sparring before the silva sonnen fight someone mentioned how AS was sparring and was dodging all the guys strikes just by watching the dudes feet...

to say AS doesnt have good striking is just to blindly hate on the guy or you simply dont understand what good striking is

every1 has an off night, the fact that sonnen landed some punches doesnt mean AS' striking isnt good

clearly serra is a better striker than GSP also
How can you possibly say he is the most precise/best striker when he hasn't faced any good strikers yet? And its not like Sonnen only landed 1 punch on him, he basically won the entire striking part of the fight.
I'm not saying he is bad striker, infact I think he is very high on the list, however calling him the best before he even fights a single tier 1 striker is total bs.
This is so similiar to Penn's "best boxing in LW division" -nuthuggery. He hadn't really fought a guy with decent boxing in LW division either until Edgar, which is when he ended up getting outboxed (and infact outgrappled too) 9 rounds out of 10.
If you people seriously think that Silva will tool Vitor like he tooled Leben, Sandman and Forrest you'll be shocked, because he has struggled with guys with much weaker striking than Vitor already, and Vitor holds the arguably fastest pair of hands in his division with boxing superior to Silva's. We'll see if Silva dares to use his clinch game and kicks as much as he should, because if it stays as pure boxing match he'll drop just as fast as Franklin did.
So yeah, YOU are the one that doesn't understand what good striking is and are too blinded by the hype built around him. When Silva actually beats a high level Striker (Like for example Shogun did at LHW) we can talk discussing how high to really rank his striking game. However calling someone who hasn't really fought peers of same level yet the best is hilarious.
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