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Old 10-01-2010, 08:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What? Why wouldnt you make one of the top money makers for your business a poster boy?

Outside of GSP, there isn't anyone but Lesnar who constantly get high PPV rating. You might be able to add Rampage to this list, but thats about it.

First and foremost, UFC is a business, they are in the sports/entertainment industry to make money.
a agree, also, imo hes the type of guy people either love or love to hate but either way they wanna watch him in action, i mean can anyone here seriously tell me they dont get excited for his fights??
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Brock is the HW Champion and has defended the belt vs a ranked opponent.

he deserves all the hype he gets and im not even a big fan.


Brocktober is just the UFC being marketing genius' and knowing the writing is on the wall and milking Brocks popularity for all it is worth and at the same time, giving Cain alot of spotlight for when his title reign starts.


The UFC is always thinking ahead. Gotta make Cain the biggest meal ticket they can. He has a great chance of winning and Dana and Co. know it very well, they have their ears to the community.
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What? Why wouldnt you make one of the top money makers for your business a poster boy?

Outside of GSP, there isn't anyone but Lesnar who constantly get high PPV rating. You might be able to add Rampage to this list, but thats about it.

First and foremost, UFC is a business, they are in the sports/entertainment industry to make money.


You could of had a good argument if you posted that reply in a Kimbo/Toney thread, not a Lesnar one.
Brock is a joke. His whole wwe fake antics confined with his one dimensional fighting style. They practically gift wrapped the belt for him, and now he's the biggest marketed guy in the ufc with 5 fights and only one of them being slightly impressive.

I can't wait for the day he's nothing more than a gatekeeper... which I have a feeling will be very soon.

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a agree, also, imo hes the type of guy people either love or love to hate but either way they wanna watch him in action, i mean can anyone here seriously tell me they dont get excited for his fights??
Nope. After ufc 100 I vowed I would never spend a dime on a fight he was in... and I never will. I'll watch it, but I damn sure won't pay for it. And I don't get excited for his fights. I actually despise any event he's in.

The guy is a joke.
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The guy is a joke.
And you're a hater.

Seriously, I sort of had a passive dislike for Brock before 100, but seeing so many people get personally offended, butt hurt and indignant over someone who they have no personal connection to, just made me want to jump on the Brock wagon even harder.

There are still people who don't think he's a legitimate fighter, much less a legitimate champion.

Look at this hater,

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I actually despise any event he's in.
Really? You're going to dislike and not pay for an event just because Brock's in it? What about the other fighter's on the card? They don't 'deserve' your paid audience because of your petulant stance on Brock Lesnar?

The thing is you probably think you're being more of a 'real' martial arts fan for your disdain of Brock except that you admittedly will not pay to watch real martial artist because of your overblown bias against Brock Lesnar (who by the way is also a real martial artist).
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Nope. After ufc 100 I vowed I would never spend a dime on a fight he was in... and I never will. I'll watch it, but I damn sure won't pay for it. And I don't get excited for his fights. I actually despise any event he's in.

The guy is a joke.
a joke how? just cause you may not like hes antics hes still the undisputed champion and deserves to be, thats all that matters imo
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And you're a hater.

Seriously, I sort of had a passive dislike for Brock before 100, but seeing so many people get personally offended, butt hurt and indignant over someone who they have no personal connection to, just made me want to jump on the Brock wagon even harder.

There are still people who don't think he's a legitimate fighter, much less a legitimate champion.

Look at this hater,



Really? You're going to dislike and not pay for an event just because Brock's in it? What about the other fighter's on the card? They don't 'deserve' your paid audience because of your petulant stance on Brock Lesnar?

The thing is you probably think you're being more of a 'real' martial arts fan for your disdain of Brock except that you admittedly will not pay to watch real martial artist because of your overblown bias against Brock Lesnar (who by the way is also a real martial artist).
Heh. I, like many other people, don't buy every ufc event mostly because of who fights on that event. By your logic we all should be paying to see any and every fighter on any event just because they are martial artist. I am far from a martial artist, and so is brock.

I love this sport. The sport will be better when he's gone.

Edit: The reason I don't buy the cars is because I refuse to let the ufc have my money for placing him on this pedestal. To pay for the event would be to sport the bs the ufc pulled with placing Brock where he is and fueling the hype train. Not worth my $50.

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a joke how? just cause you may not like hes antics hes still the undisputed champion and deserves to be, thats all that matters imo
There's been a lot of joke champions in the past. The problem is usually the ufc doesn't put them on magazine covers, the website home page, video game covers, and headlining the biggest event in ufc history.

He's a joke because he beat a guy who could barely compete with a old and un motivated cro cop (mir), a guy who should be retired (couture), a gatekeeper (herring), and a one dimensional power puncher (carwin... who still put him in the fetal position). Yet ufc and co make him out to be the best thing since sliced bead. That's why he's a joke.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Heh. I, like many other people, don't buy every ufc event mostly because of who fights on that event. By your logic we all should be paying to see any and every fighter on any event just because they are martial artist. I am far from a martial artist, and so is brock.

I love this sport. The sport will be better when he's gone.

Edit: The reason I don't buy the cars is because I refuse to let the ufc have my money for placing him on this pedestal. To pay for the event would be to sport the bs the ufc pulled with placing Brock where he is and fueling the hype train. Not worth my $50.



There's been a lot of joke champions in the past. The problem is usually the ufc doesn't put them on magazine covers, the website home page, video game covers, and headlining the biggest event in ufc history.

He's a joke because he beat a guy who could barely compete with a old and un motivated cro cop (mir), a guy who should be retired (couture), a gatekeeper (herring), and a one dimensional power puncher (carwin... who still put him in the fetal position). Yet ufc and co make him out to be the best thing since sliced bead. That's why he's a joke.
By your logic almost all of the UFC heavyweight division is a 'hype' train. Or rather, everyone who hasn't faced Brock Lesnar yet and has the chance to beat him. If you're going to say Brock is a joke fighter because he speculatively can't beat JDS or Velasquez, 2 people in the entire world, or if you prefer to extend it, Overeem and Fedor, 4 people in the world, then you're a hater. Just admit it. We can all go home.

Also, I bet you wouldn't talk shit about Mir, Carwin, Couture, if they beat Brock or were the champion. I bet you weren't calling Carwin a one dimensional fighter before he lost to Brock (though I could be wrong) I bet you would have no problem with the UFC putting any them on the pedestal if they were champions.

Brock is the Champion because he has won the the fights to make him a champion and keep him there. Sure, he was bumped to the front of line by the UFC, but put 99.9999999% of the people in world in the same position, and they would fail.

Also, by your logic you wouldn't buy a GSP vs Silva ppv if Brock was fighting on the undercard. That's messed. My point wasn't that all real martial artist deserve to be watched, but that no fighter in the world deserves to passed on because he/she is fighting on the same card as Brock. That's stupid. It's racist against Vikings.
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By your logic almost all of the UFC heavyweight division is a 'hype' train. Or rather, everyone who hasn't faced Brock Lesnar yet and has the chance to beat him. If you're going to say Brock is a joke fighter because he speculatively can't beat JDS or Velasquez, 2 people in the entire world, or if you prefer to extend it, Overeem and Fedor, 4 people in the world, then you're a hater. Just admit it. We can all go home.

Also, I bet you wouldn't talk shit about Mir, Carwin, Couture, if they beat Brock or were the champion. I bet you weren't calling Carwin a one dimensional fighter before he lost to Brock (though I could be wrong) I bet you would have no problem with the UFC putting any them on the pedestal if they were champions.

Brock is the Champion because he has won the the fights to make him a champion and keep him there. Sure, he was bumped to the front of line by the UFC, but put 99.9999999% of the people in world in the same position, and they would fail.

Also, by your logic you wouldn't buy a GSP vs Silva ppv if Brock was fighting on the undercard. That's messed. My point wasn't that all real martial artist deserve to be watched, but that no fighter in the world deserves to passed on because he/she is fighting on the same card as Brock. That's stupid. It's racist against Vikings.
I am a proud Brock hater... admittedly and no question about it. I've always admitted this. Before the carwin fight I still said it doesn't mean much if he beat carwin.

LAWL at the bold. They could have put any of the top four guys in his place and they would be champs. Hell if nelson was in Brocks shoes he would have got the belt.

its hard to write long replies from my phone. I'll get to the rest of your post later.
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LAWL, that's ridiculous. Nelson wouldn't have gotten by Couture, Mir, or Shane.

Herring, maybe. Put down the Kool Aid, son.
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LAWL, that's ridiculous. Nelson wouldn't have gotten by Couture, Mir, or Shane.

Herring, maybe. Put down the Kool Aid, son.
Nelson would have probably beat couture. I never said he would still have the belt. I said if put in Brocks shoes he would have won it.
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