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post #11 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-02-2010, 07:26 PM
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The UFC seems to be moving away from the idea of protecting their undefeated fighters and prospects.

In the last few months the UFC have:

Tried to make Dong Hyun Kim Vs Hathaway happen - The top 2 WW prospects.
Have book Hendricks Vs Story who are the next 2 young WW prospects.
and now it looks likes they are booking Bader Vs Jones.

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From what we've seen from both guys, I would expect to see a complete domination from Jones. If Bader tried to take Jones down, he's gonna use his unorthodox style and use Baders strength against him.
I don't see anything that Bader does better than Jones, but then again we haven't really seen Jones pushed yet.
Make the fight happen.

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post #13 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-03-2010, 01:05 AM
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Jones has looked a little sloppy. He will have to watch out or Bader might catch him with one of his bombs.
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post #14 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-03-2010, 01:24 AM
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If Bader even lasts the first round then i predict he gasses later on. When is no way in hell he wins this.
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post #15 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-03-2010, 02:38 AM
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I think people over hype jon jones, but this is one fight where i can't see him losing.
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post #16 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-03-2010, 06:26 AM
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I've already said i don't like the idea of this fight.
But if it were to happen, i would be curious to see if this would develop into a pure wrestling fight.
Both have amazing wrestling. Bader seems to have a more pure form of wrestling, like in the Nog fight, i was getting the impression he feels he is in a wrestling match.
Jones' wrestling on the other hand, feels much more adapted to MMA. He made the transition from pure wrestling to MMA wrestling a lot better imo. It is really hard for his opponents to see his TD coming. He has akward angles, gets a TD from absolutely nothing, does sick throws and once he is on the ground, he starts looking for the best way to hurt you as hard as possible. Crazy elbows, nice guard passing: once he is on the ground he has one mission: destroy you. Whereas Bader feels more comfortable by holding dominant position and scoring points on the ground with some...softer, safer GnP.
It would be interesting to see both of them on their back with the other on top, to see how they would handle the situation.

On the feet, i can't really say: Bader has some power in his hands, especially that big right. Jones's striking is strange, i wouldn't even call it striking, because he can fake with such realtive ease and then he hits you with a reverse elbow that send you to "sleepy-land".

Conclusion: advantage Jones no doubt, but should be an entertaining fight. Still Jones takes this, maybe a 3rd round stoppage.



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Some education if you please chaps....

Has Bones or Bader ever been on their backs? I cant recall. Without seeing their skills down there, I really don't know. It *seems* obvious that Bones will win. He *seems* to have much better athleticism and skill set. But, he could be god awful off his back.
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He trains with GSP, Shane Carwin and Rashad Evans, I'd say it's pretty safe to say he'll have done a lot of work off his back.

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post #19 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-03-2010, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Danm2501 View Post
He trains with GSP, Shane Carwin and Rashad Evans, I'd say it's pretty safe to say he'll have done a lot of work off his back.
Hes done work down there... for sure.

But, then theres always the question of heart. Train all you want, but when you are under some big dude dropping elbows and punches on your head and body, then questions about heart come up.

Both Bader and Bones need these questions answered before I get too excited about either of them.
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Stupid fight if you ask me. Despite the LHW division constantly being referred to as "Stacked", it is well on its way to being another WW division... where the same four, maybe five, guys are fighting for the title over and over again. Putting these two against each other, and it not being a title fight is just a dumb move. You're creating one contender sure, but you're losing another one.

In my opinion they should give Jones someone like Franklin, and Bader someone like Griffin. Both of these guys would be good test, and could move both guys into top 5 status.

Simply put, someone before me compared it to Cain/Junion set up at HW... yes, they should be doing that.
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