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post #11 of 43 (permalink) Old 10-11-2010, 12:18 AM
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The worth of Dana White's assets easily surpasses a billion $. But it's not like he simply has access to a billion dollars at any time.

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whoa, was expecting some half assed responses, but got me real good info from this thread. Thread WIN!
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In terms of equity, with Zuffa (under)valued at $1.25 billion, under private ownership. And White owning 9%, in equity that makes him a $100 millionaire + in equity, add his multi-million dollar salary and whatever other assets he owns. So, at the very least his net worth in equity is over $100,000,000 (a discounted $100,000,000).. and then some for whatever other income sources he has.

I'm sure Flash paid a pretty big premium for their little stake.

IF Zuffa were to public, given the UFC's growth - it's would get gobbled up by investors worldwide, and have a ridiculous P/E AT LEAST $10 billion+. Instant large cap status, in ETFs, mutual funds, hedge fund holdings, derivative markets, etc.

An IPO of the company could garner multiple times that $1.25 billion potential for White to become a potential billionaire. But would also require full public disclosure of all their wheelings and dealings - i'm sure they don't want that.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:WWE - a failing company worth $1 billion+. Declining profits, revenues, increasing liablities, giving out junk bond level dividends. The WWE is an awful, failing firm that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.

Biotechs (that aren't profitable, but show potential) shoot up 10X quite often when they go public.

If a company with marginal profits, but decent growth like Facebook were to go public--- their value would be 10X bank valuations.

If they went public, Zuffa would be worth well in to the 10s of billions, making White a billionaire (diluting say 25% of the company to the markets).

Just about all companies exit strategy for their founders is to go public at it's peak - and cash in big time. I don't see Zuffa being any different. I think it's only a matter of timing.

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If Zuffa has an IPO and is on the market...White's probably somewhere in the $100 millions right now, but would likely become a billionaire overnight if (and when) Zuffa goes public. Add in current rampant dollar devaluation, international money inflow especially from sound economies (not the U.S).

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I was a shareholder in Sohu, Inc (massive Chinese Intenet/gaming and media provider) and and a put holder (on 2 year leaps) and sold at strike price $60 because I saw value early in the year, made an easy 28%. I listened to their conference calls and (as I expected they beat earnings estimates), but during the last conference call they made a direct reference to their deal with UFC as one reason for their higher than expected earnings.

I don't know about Russia, but UFC is probably making mad profit from the BRIC countries, coming in rapidly appreciating currencies against the dollar - Australia, SE Asia and agains BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) --- the world's sound economies. Although their primary income at the moment, i'd imagine is the PPVs/broadcast deals with failing economies like the US, UK and Euro-zone, still dollars.

He can be a billionare, it's just when Zuffa is ready to go public. Just timing.
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Believe that's right.
Lorenzo - 40.5%
Frank - 40.5%
Dana - 9%
Flash - 10%


The worth is on paper and profit potential. Fertittas aren't on the Forbes list, but they're close to billionares with all their assets combined. The big players are Sheldon Adelson ($14.7 billion) and Steve Wynn ($3.9 now down to $1.5 billion) in the casino business. Station casinos is a losing venture so you could say UFC has subsidized their losses so to speak, but it was through their initial seed money from Station Casino that afforded them this opportunity of a lifetime.

Realistically I'd peg Dana White at $50 million, with his shares easily in the hundreds of millions as of right now. It's private so it's not worth as much compared to if it were trading on the open market. Doubt they'll ever go public unless they're hurting for cash otherwise they'll have too many regulations, shareholders to appease, and it'll just be bought out by some corporate raiders (Icahn, Google, Rupert Murdoch) who wants to cash in the MMA craze then dismantle it and sell it.

As much as you guys may love to hate em Dana White is the SINGLE driving force of this machine. It's crazy.
how does that make sense thats 110% of the company instead of 100


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how does that make sense thats 110% of the company instead of 100
40.5 + 40.5 = 81
81 + 9 = 90
90 + 10 = 100




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40.5 + 40.5 = 81
81 + 9 = 90
90 + 10 = 100
my badness i got confuse with 45.5


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Nice analysis. Google finances is actually pretty informative. Pinksheets is pretty neat. I studied Elite's charts and found that most MMA organizations were in the hole.
- Elite - negative $50 million
- Bodog - negative $45 million
- Affliction - major negatives

It's not surprising they're all defunct now along with IFL, WFA (select assets bought out by Zuffa), PRIDE (bought out by Zuffa), and many others. Then...you have Zuffa which is completely RAKING in the CAKE. It's nice to be on team Zuffa.

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In terms of equity, with Zuffa (under)valued at $1.25 billion, under private ownership. And White owning 9%, in equity that makes him a $100,000+ millionaire in equity, add his multi-million dollar salary and whatever other assets he owns. So, at the very least his net worth in equity is over $100,000 (a discounted $100,000).. and then some for whatever other income sources he has.

I'm sure Flash paid a pretty big premium for their little stake.

IF Zuffa were to public, given the UFC's growth - it's would get gobbled up by investors worldwide, and have a ridiculous P/E AT LEAST $10 billion+. Instant large cap status, in ETFs, mutual funds, hedge fund holdings, derivative markets, etc.

An IPO of the company could garner multiple times that $1.25 billion potential for White to become a potential billionaire. But would also require full public disclosure of all their wheelings and dealings - i'm sure they don't want that.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:WWE - a failing company worth $1 billion+. Declining profits, revenues, increasing liablities, giving out junk bond level dividends. The WWE is an awful, failing firm that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.

Biotechs (that aren't profitable, but show potential) shoot up 10X quite often when they go public.

If a company with marginal profits, but decent growth like Facebook were to go public--- their value would be 10X bank valuations.

If they went public, Zuffa would be worth well in to the 10s of billions, making White a billionaire (diluting, and diluting say 25% of the company to the markets).

Just about all companies exit strategy for their founders is to go public at it's peak - and cash in big time. I don't see Zuffa being any different. I think it's only a matter of timing.

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If Zuffa has an IPO and is on the market...White's probably somewhere in the $100 millions right now, but would likely become a billionaire overnight if (and when) Zuffa goes public. Add in current rampant dollar devaluation, international money inflow especially from sound economies (not the U.S).

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I was a shareholder in Sohu, Inc (massive Chinese Intenet/gaming and media provider) and and a put holder (on 2 year leaps) and sold at strike price $60 because I saw value early in the year, made an easy 28%. I listened to their conference calls and (as I expected they beat earnings estimates), but during the last conference call they made a direct reference to their deal with UFC as one reason for their higher than expected earnings.

I don't know about Russia, but UFC is probably making mad profit from the BRIC countries, coming in rapidly appreciating currencies against the dollar - Australia, SE Asia and agains BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) --- the world's sound economies. Although their primary income at the moment, i'd imagine is the PPVs/broadcast deals with failing economies like the US, UK and Euro-zone, still dollars.

He can be a billionare, it's just when Zuffa is ready to go public. Just timing.
Frank and Lorenzo took a 4.5 cut each and Dana only 1%. It's amazing the intrinsic value of each point.

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how does that make sense thats 110% of the company instead of 100
Overall great thread. I got a kick out of trying to figure out Dana's finances.
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i wish i was rich...... oh well at least i dont live in americas economy


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The Fertittas are on Forbes:

http://www.forbes.com/profile/lorenzo-fertitta

http://www.forbes.com/profile/frank-fertitta

Dana isn't. He's not a billionaire, at least officially.
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