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why are they calling cain mexican

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#1 ·
i watch the advertisements and it looks like they are trying to play this off as Mexico vs USA. they show a mexican flag for cain and an american flag for brock. also sayin cain could be the first mexican champ but cain isnt mexican. He is american he was born in america lives in america and trains in america. His father was from mexico but he is not.
 
#94 ·
American, like being British is (obviously) a nationality not an ethnicity. For most Americans they don't have much cultural influences their ancestors did.

I see the USA as a place where anyone can be anything they want/believe to be and have the two way relationship that being a citizen of the US entails. Theirs nothing wrong Cain, he just prefer his Mexican roots while living there.
Like me, I'm British but don't consider myself a true Brit or completely Kurdish either.
 
#98 ·
his heritage is Mexican..
you're making it sound as if it's bad to be Mexican..
i never said it was bad to be of mexican heritage they are just making it seem like its a mexican and not a american. They are selling this fight as Mexico vs USA which in reality its USA vs USA.

like i said earlier for instance he is an american citizen if he wins he should be seen as another american winning not the first mexican champ. IF someone who is a mexican citizen wins the title then they are the first mexican champ not cain. cain is brown but he is American not Mexican.

also as i said before are we starting to go back to the 60s and 70s where it was white vs black except now its mexican decent vs white?
 
#96 ·
i think every1 just missed the point here, the UFC saying cain will be the 1st mexican champ is the problem, because hes not mexican

unless he has dual citizenship, in that case then its ok...dont know if he has though...im brazilian but i have a spanish citizenship so im also spanish even though i never lived there

anyway, i really dont think any1 is saying its wrong for cain to call himself mexican or to be proud of his mexican culture, i just thought the whole point here was UFC trying to pass cain off as the 1st potential UFC mexican HW

cain has done nothing wrong and its obvious, if he wants to represent mexico, come in with the flag, hell who are we to deny him that?

im just thinking that if cain doesnt have citizenship, then what will the UFC do when the real 1st mexican HW champ arrives?
 
#104 ·
He was banned? That is unfortunate. Aside from a few comments in this thread I thought he was expressing his opinion fairly well. Did he have reoccuring problems on the board? I was not offended by anything he said to me so if he was banned for comments pointed towards me please reinstate his account as I was completely not offended. Honestly we all get a hold of these casual forum conversations where we are more emotionally invested and say things a little more pointed than necessary.
 
#106 ·
He has already been banned before but thought he was gonna sneak back in. Doesn't work that way, you get one chance if your screw it up your done till the ban expires. Start a second account and its a year ban minimum.
 
#108 ·
Very well said, this won't bring any good and it's kinda disrespectful. They could have mentioned that he is a mexican immigrant but making it Mexico vs USA is maybe a 'smart' business move. I still think Cain vs Brock will sell out on it's own there is no need to go that low and promote this fight for ******** and mexican racists to go ape sh!t.
 
#110 ·
im not one to pick fights and i know this doesn't apply to all of you, but why is patriotisms o damn important to all americans? its cool to love your country and all but you dont have to try and claim everyone good or important to be yours, just accept the fact that cain has mexican heritage therefore he is mexican not full-blooded american
 
#118 ·
The reason Brock isnt wearing a White Pride tattoo is because of what it represents. And that is racial superiority. Saying that all other races are evil or below them. That is why Brock shouldn't wear it.
Think about it, what have White done as a whole that was inspriational? Taking the Indians' land? Slavery? Labor Camps during the World Wars? Looking back on White/British American history, it doesnt look like there are alot of things to be proud of.
Im black and im damn proud of it. Hell, most of Africa is a war-torn 3rd world country but thats where my ancestors came from and I cant change no matter how much paperwork is done. Im an African 1st and a American second. DEAL WITH IT.
I mean sure there isnt much about my African heritage that I know and/or proud of but the one thing I am proud is that they stick to their traditions no matter how advanced the other countires are.
But, the UFC is ticking me off with the whole "1st Mexican HW champ". I mean damn I guess they just plain forgot Ricco Rodriguez.
 
#119 ·
Speaking of which I was watching parts of Aldo/Faber.
Did they really have to have the no way Jose shrits? I mean really was it because he is Brazillian?
And I bet they felt like jackass when Aldo kicked Fabers legs to hell.
 
#129 ·
Belive me I know the horrors of slavery in no way am i justifying the Americans that had slaves. I know all about American history and slavery however I have also done allot of study on African history. It's just the way the slave trade worked African nations and tribes gained slaves through wars (and other things) then sold them to Europeans and
Americans. Slavery was not uniquely white many Africans had slaves as well.
 
#130 ·
look im not trying to say one hertitage is better than the other.
Japanesse,Chinese,Koreans,Brazilians,Russia and everyone else has had a dark history, but not a totally dark history. Im saying that Cain should'nt be persucuted for saying how proud he is to be a MEXICAN-american, thats all.
 
#133 ·
They are 2 Americans fightig for the HW strap. One has strong ties to Mexico. Do I think it is a false notion that Cain would be the first "Mexican" HW Champ? Yea. They are doing all they can to get the most PPV views.

In the end I don't care what the advertisment says. Cain is American. Has nothig to do with anything come fight night.
 
#143 ·
Personally, I feel disappointed, slighted and offended that the ufc is doing nothing to promote the fact that Brock is the first Viking heavy weight champ, fighting for the honor and pride of all the Scandinavian people of minnisota and Dakota as well as blonde haired blue eyed people all over the world.Highlighting his ethnic pride and proving over and over again that no other ethnic fighter can beat the Nordic warrior.:angry02:
 
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