JDS possesses excellent Boxing and good TDD but i see Cain taking that fight, however Carwin has unparalleled power and i can see him KOing Cain in the 1st, thoughts about these fights?
Something that annoys me and leaves me disgusted!I see Cain taking Carwin to deep waters and drowning him. I see Cain holding top position on JDS and winning a decision or TKO stoppage. There isn't a lot of submissions from the bottom anymore in top tier MMA. They exist, but aren't common. I see a more seasoned Lesnar coming back to be Cain's biggest threat.
No, I just know how to structure a debate using facts and common sense and for some reason some people take it personally, then somehow turn it into a conversation about 'trolls' and 'online predators'.thats just because for some reason all your posts come off that way
Well i actually pointed out, that you dont use logic. Since you dont use Logic, you clearly dont use facts or common sense, since it does go hand in hand. I wouldnt expect, you to understand anything at this point. You dont understand what knockout power is, you dont understand why we are talking about it, You dont understand those GIFs, You dont understand what FACTS mean and you dont understand what common sense is.No, I just know how to structure a debate using facts and common sense and for some reason some people take it personally, then somehow turn it into a conversation about 'trolls' and 'online predators'.
If your GIFs actually showed the parts which prove my point, this would have been a lot less complicated. Anyway, you've pretty much ended what was a good thread well done.
Thank you for pointing those out. I was actually thinking about posting the Rashad-Chuck GIF when i quoted them BUT then decided that im not going to push the Werdum argument since i doubt no matter what i show them or say they will change their minds. Normally id say Werdum was knocked out BUT his body language tells me otherwise. His body seems conscious to me BUT he probably is so rocked that he doesn't know what is going on. Similar to if you have ever been dropped on your head?? You kinda go in a daze for a bit BUT are definitely not knocked out. Then you gotta add that instead of regaining his composure by waiting for the daze to subside he had JDS jump on him and throw bombs at his head. He wasn't about to defend himself in that state of mind but he wasn't unconscious/knocked out either. I can even post Street Fight videos were someone gets knocked the **** out. When i think about it, its actually pretty obvious when someone is out cold.Heres another clean KO:
A knock out is when some one goes completely unconscious, is completely OUT. If they are still conscious and wobbled, then they are not cleanly knocked out.
All clean KO's
Another example.
Struve and Gonzaga were clearly NOT cleanly KO'd and like sideways said, the werdum one is debatable.
Obviously both guys have huge power, but clearly Carwin has that one shot lights out KO power.
You do know it is possible to be knocked out from falling/being dropped on your head don't you? That is how knock outs happen... but according to you, you are "definately not knocked out" if you fall on your head. Right...Similar to if you have ever been dropped on your head?? You kinda go in a daze for a bit BUT are definitely not knocked out
Sigh dude, You must have got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. :dunno:You're the one with logic and common sense? Explain this then:
You do know it is possible to be knocked out from falling/being dropped on your head don't you? That is how knock outs happen... but according to you, you are "definately not knocked out" if you fall on your head. Right...
Not being funny but have you ever been knocked out? I don't mean from fighting, anything. Do you know anyone with serious head injuries? What makes you think you know all this? Cus it seems you just watch videos of people fighting and then decide you're a physician, I hope that's not the case.
When someone is knocked unconscious they can either go limp like you've described(many many times...), they can go stiff and hold a certain shape for a few seconds, and they can even move/twitch, repeating the same movements until conscious again. You can't always say 'oh he doesn't look like he's knocked out', it's not always as obvious as you think, especially through a screen.
Your GIFs just show people getting hit and then falling to the floor, which doesn't prove anything and isn't any different to what happened to Gonzaga, Struve and Werdum.
I thought they were officially wins via KO but JDS' UFC webpage just lists them as KO/TKO and IMO that's the most credible source, it's the only one I would use in my argument, you obviously got yours off Sherdog or something.
I'm not sure what's riled you up so much? One thing I bet I am right on, if JDS punched you it'd be KO of the year.
Yes, i do know that it is possible to be knocked out by being dropped on your head. I have never EVER said that it is impossible to be knocked out by being dropped on your head. I feel like You took what i said, printed it out,cut the paper up, threw the pieces in a bag, you probably beat yourself over the head with the bag until you became dazed, poured the bag out and then while blindfolded glued the pieces back together HOPING that it would remain the way it was when you printed it.You do know it is possible to be knocked out from falling/being dropped on your head don't you? That is how knock outs happen... but according to you, you are "definitely not knocked out" if you fall on your head. Right...
i consider you somewhat special.
i think you are somewhat of a mental midget
now that i have finished treating you like a middle schooler
you are somewhat "special".
That right there is a pretty dimwitted statement. Coming from you though, it is hardly a surprising statement.
Nice... you are obviously the more mature and intelligent poster in this thread.I actually at the idea that you "Know" anything LMAO
Nice :thumb02:Man you are intense... your last few posts just consist of a load of insults and arrogance laced in so much BS that you're the only person who understands it, hoping that Mckeever will loosely agree to what you're saying and make you feel like you're 'schooling' and 'owning' me.
Nice... you are obviously the more mature and intelligent poster in this thread.