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post #51 of 59 (permalink) Old 11-23-2010, 05:40 PM
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Yeah but it was the show that got the company attention, not Forrest. By your logic, Leben or Kos should be on there, as they were one of the main reasons why people tuned in to watch the show.

As far as my opinion, I agree with most people on here.

Royce
Chuck
Hughes
Randy

Dana could easily be on there, but really it was the fighters above that stirred the pot and did the impossible.
He means the fight with Bonnar. So no, his logic is perfectly correct.

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Royce Gracie
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Okay, I'll go ahead and admit it. I'm extremely biased towards Anderson Silva, and Blackhouse as whole. I passionately root against Machida, Nogueiras, Silva, Aldo, etc. as often as possible.

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1) Longest unbeaten streak in the UFC (2006-Present day)
2) Most title defences in the UFC (8)
3) Highest Striking accuracy (76%)
4) Was in the main event fight of the UFC's record sell out at the Bell Center in Montreal. The attendance was 21,451. Not even UFC 100 beat that.

Well thats 4 and I could prob dig a little deeper and find more, so there's that. Now please stop making uneducated statements about A.Silva doing less then Tito.
To be fair, Montreal has a huge MMA market, and Chuck Liddell was on the card, and arguably still one of the most popular draws for the UFC at the time.

Yeah, Anderson has set striking records, title defense records and whatnot.

THAT'S NOT THE ******* POINT

I'm not talking about UFC striking records, title defenses, undefeated streaks, and whatnot. Yes, those are all very good things, but at the end of the day does that justify the promotion and image of the UFC? That's why I listed guys like Randy, Tito, Chuck, etc. They had an impact on the growth and promotion of the sport. Anderson has had little to none compared to Randy, Dana and company.

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You're better off just putting your favorite fighters on the list than coming here trying to justify your bias for certain fighters.

So just go ahead and pick the fighters that mean a lot to you personally. No need to try and base it on specific accomplishments because as it stands, half of your list is kinda
I've already addressed the second and third parts of your paragraph in my earlier comments, and I don't feel like repeating myself.

My favorite fighters are in my signature. I didn't list Rich, Josh, Jan, Phil Davis, or Cro Cop. Randy is one of my favorite fighters, but he's revered by the MMA community, and that's why I put him on the list.

So this part of your arguement itself is ridiculous and poorly constructed.
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I imagine from left to right

Randy
GSP
Dana
4th ones a toss up
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Okay, I'll go ahead and admit it. I'm extremely biased towards Anderson Silva, and Blackhouse as whole. I passionately root against Machida, Nogueiras, Silva, Aldo, etc. as often as possible.



To be fair, Montreal has a huge MMA market, and Chuck Liddell was on the card, and arguably still one of the most popular draws for the UFC at the time.

Yeah, Anderson has set striking records, title defense records and whatnot.

THAT'S NOT THE ******* POINT

I'm not talking about UFC striking records, title defenses, undefeated streaks, and whatnot. Yes, those are all very good things, but at the end of the day does that justify the promotion and image of the UFC? That's why I listed guys like Randy, Tito, Chuck, etc. They had an impact on the growth and promotion of the sport. Anderson has had little to none compared to Randy, Dana and company.
It is the point actually, you said to your knowledge Anderson has no records, well there 4 and I am sure there is more. Also, he holds the most records in the UFC, he IS a draw he IS the most dominant UFC champion ever and yes, he DOES train at blackhouse, and because he does that shouldnt make you not consider him for this drawing. Even though I know for a fact you won't put him on, I am still making my case because as an MMA fan I have the right to answer your question, and your question was who are the 4 most deserving faces.

And you know what, I am not a huge Anderson Silva fan and maybe I don't even think he deserves to be one of the 4 but to say Tito has done more for the sport and the orginization is an extremely false statement.

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I can understand your arguement to a certain extent, but to say Anderson has done more for the UFC in terms of growth, popularity, and mainstream than Tito has indicates you're either new to the sport, or just as biased against Tito as you think I am against Anderson. Do you think the UFC would be where it is today if it wasn't for Tito? I'm by no means a Tito fan but his feud with Shamrock really started putting the UFC on the map. If Anderson wasn't in the UFC, I don't think anyone would notice or care. Anderson has not helped the UFC grow like Tito has, or any of the others that I've put on my list.

However, I'm a fair woman, and I will put Anderson on the list, even though I he doesn't deserve to be. I asked for the opinion of the users on this forum, and they shall have their wish.

Oh, I've also added Rich Franklin and Stephan Bonnar to the list.

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Why so bias against the Blackhouse fighters, toots? Surely if you can give Tito his dues for being one of the most important figures in UFC history you can give Anderson his for being the most dominant champion ever?
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I can understand your arguement to a certain extent, but to say Anderson has done more for the UFC in terms of growth, popularity, and mainstream than Tito has indicates you're either new to the sport, or just as biased against Tito as you think I am against Anderson. Do you think the UFC would be where it is today if it wasn't for Tito? I'm by no means a Tito fan but his feud with Shamrock really started putting the UFC on the map. If Anderson wasn't in the UFC, I don't think anyone would notice or care. Anderson has not helped the UFC grow like Tito has, or any of the others that I've put on my list.

However, I'm a fair woman, and I will put Anderson on the list, even though I he doesn't deserve to be. I asked for the opinion of the users on this forum, and they shall have their wish.

Oh, I've also added Rich Franklin and Stephan Bonnar to the list.
Its difficult to quantify Silvas effect on the UFC. I agree, that Tito put arses in seats and got people interested. But Silva did plenty when it comes to legitimizing MMA in the eyes of those who had it down as nothing but unskilled cavemen. When he came along and crushed Frankin, we were clearly witnessing an event. A step up in the evolution of MMA. Even the most cynical boxers could appreciate the beauty of Silva doing his thing. For me, it was an event easily as glorious as Randy turning up at UFC13 and showing the world how exciting and devastating MMA wrestling could be.

So, in closing, I feel Silvas contribution may not be so visible or obvious as Titos, Chucks or Randys, but just as important. Is very difficult to imagine the MW division without Silva. His existence has raised our expectations. Hes a very important figure in my eyes.
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Why so bias against the Blackhouse fighters, toots? Surely if you can give Tito his dues for being one of the most important figures in UFC history you can give Anderson his for being the most dominant champion ever?
I do think he's the most dominant champion ever. He's a great fighter. I've already acknowledged that. However, I disagree with people who say that he has helped the sport grow, especially in regards to what Tito has done in terms of promoting the UFC. Just because you're a dominant champion or fighter doesn't mean you help the sport grow. Fitch has won all but one of his fights in the UFC, and continues to dominate anyone not named GSP. Does that make him worthy of being on this list?

And yes, I cannot stand Blackhouse. Machida is the only one I can tolerate, but both the Nogueira brothers are nice guys until you beat them. They are some of the most sore losers I've ever seen, and always say they were injured, or got robbed of a decision. Anderson of late has been an embarrassment to MMA more than he is an ambassador. I was so disgusted with his preformace in Abu Dhabi, and in Montral (though Thales could have taken some of the blame as well). I will never respect such a douchebag who goes out and dances most of the time instead of fights. I want the Anderson who sodomized Forrest Griffin in the UFC, not the one who dances around like Roy Jones or some ghetto-trash boxer.

Alright, so I've chosen three fighters already that seem pretty unanimous.

Royce Gracie
Randy Couture
Georges St. Pierre


I'll let this thread run for a few more days. Whomever has the most mentions at the end will get the fourth and final spot.
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