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The Day We Have All Been Waiting For

whether are a hater or a big fan of Chael Sonnen, everyone is very interested in seeing tomorrows result on his PEDS hearing. I for one hope that he is back asap and they give him no penalties.

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Hope the guy gets made to pay for his crime. He was obviously on PEDs, just look at him.

This is a dangerous sport, anybody cheating should be made be made an example of. The day a steroid user kills somebody in the Octagon, Dana will learn real quick this is no game and a clean sport is a healthy sport.
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Hope the guy gets made to pay for his crime. He was obviously on PEDs, just look at him.

This is a dangerous sport, anybody cheating should be made be made an example of. The day a steroid user kills somebody in the Octagon, Dana will learn real quick this is no game and a clean sport is a healthy sport.
You do know that most professional fighters use something whether it's for recovery or strength or speed, right? When big money is involved in professional sports, so are drugs. It doesn't make it right or okay, but the testing they do is ridiculous and lets way too many people off the hook. Either they should all (drug users) be punished, or none at all.
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You do know that most professional fighters use something whether it's for recovery or strength or speed, right? When big money is involved in professional sports, so are drugs. It doesn't make it right or okay, but the testing they do is ridiculous and lets way too many people off the hook. Either they should all (drug users) be punished, or none at all.
yes, and nate diaz said about 50% of mma fighters have been or are suing drugs, which tells me sonnen was just an unlucky one even though none of its right


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Yes, they all should. Chael should be the start. Nothing against him, but this is a violent sport, make it a level playing field. BTW, he was not on 'recovery drugs', it is plain for all to see.

Athletic Commissions, Dana, whoever, clean it up.

And I don't believe Sonnen was just unlucky, from what I'm told, he was told how to time his cycle. He just didn't do it properly (go figure).
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yes, and nate diaz said about 50% of mma fighters have been or are suing drugs, which tells me sonnen was just an unlucky one even though none of its right
Yep I'm with ya 100%. There is a lot of evidence of drug use, ranging from various fighters' testimonies to fighters' physiques. Given a certain height, there's only so much lean mass a person can maintain naturally. Many fighters are well above while also keeping body fat to a minimum.
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Yes, they all should. Chael should be the start. Nothing against him, but this is a violent sport, make it a level playing field. BTW, he was not on 'recovery drugs', it is plain for all to see.

Athletic Commissions, Dana, whoever, clean it up.

And I don't believe Sonnen was just unlucky, from what I'm told, he was told how to time his cycle. He just didn't do it properly (go figure).
Are you saying based on his physique, it's obvious?

If so, would you say the same for GSP, Matt Hughes, Thiago Alves, etc?
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Yep I'm with ya 100%. There is a lot of evidence of drug use, ranging from various fighters' testimonies to fighters' physiques. Given a certain height, there's only so much lean mass a person can maintain naturally. Many fighters are well above while also keeping body fat to a minimum.
Exactly.

The thing that gets me, is fans who don't care. "Everybody does it", "50% of fighters do it anyways". This kind of attitude only helps prolong the problem and does not give somebody like Dana an incentive to push for a clean-up.
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Are you saying based on his physique, it's obvious?

If so, would you say the same for GSP, Matt Hughes, Thiago Alves, etc?
The rapid increase in strength of the guy. The change in his physique. The bacne.

Regardless, the man was on PEDs. Let's change the attitudes of fans, and Dana will banish cheats. Commissions may change testing procedures. It happened in most other sports, yet the UFC is a fossil in this respect (and let's not bring in boxing, it's just as bad with their joke testing, only that cheats aren't treated as idols even after being caught). There is a weird culture amongst UFC fans to not care, but changes start from the ground up.

If my brother fought a drug cheat and was injured, I would be pizzed. Same if a son, father, uncle, nephew, friend. Yet fans don't seem to care. Odd. I think it's because the casual fan cares more about blood and damage, than they do about viewing skills, which probably explains why most good technical striking or grappling matches get booed.

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The rapid increase in strength of the guy. The change in his physique. The bacne.

Regardless, the man was on PEDs. Let's change the attitudes of fans, and Dana will banish cheats. Commissions may change testing procedures. It happened in most other sports, yet the UFC is a fossil in this respect (and let's not bring in boxing, it's just as bad with their joke testing, only that cheats aren't treated as idols even after being caught). There is a weird culture amongst UFC fans to not care, but changes start from the ground up.

If my brother fought a drug cheat and was injured, I would be pizzed. Same if a son, father, uncle, nephew, friend. Yet fans don't seem to care. Odd. I think it's because the casual fan cares more about blood and damage, than they do about viewing skills, which probably explains why most good technical striking or grappling matches get booed.
in that case it should start from the next guy who does it, not sonnen, unless he is re-caught


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