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Does it effect GSP's Legacy that he doesn't Finish fights

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 36.7%
  • No

    Votes: 50 63.3%

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#1 ·
k was anyone else BORED watching the fight??? Sure GSP has game plans but none of them consist of a take him out attitude. C;eary KOS wasnt able to hang with him yet GSP allowed a fight that should've ended in the 2nd or later 3rd but dragged on to a 5round decision.....KOS had only one eye and GSP still couldnt put him away....
 
#4 ·
I was really ready to give GSP props for standing and trading tonight until that last takedown/holdown fully revealed that GSP never had any intention of finishing the fight.

Also Rogan's bias announcing came out again last night. I don't like either guy but Rogan constantly complains about Bisping not setting down on his punches, but not a mention last night when GSP was doing the exact same thing. Instead he praises GSP for being able to close the gap so fast.
 
#7 ·
Yes, the unfortunate part of GSP's game is that he really doesn't posses a killer instinct. He's not a finisher. I hope He will some day find his inner savage. When this happens he will be the most dominant and entertaining fighter of all time. Until then he can get in line behind Anderson.
 
#9 ·
Wasn't bored at all. Was actually a very exciting fight for me and my friends. Had most of us cheering and jeering every time a punch was landed.

When Kos eye swelled up it really got everyone going.

Sometimes it really is about who is fighting that makes it exciting.

For my guests this is what they came to see.

I love seeing GSP evolve and improve, trying new ways to dominate his opponents completely.

People will always critisize him for not taking huge risks but I really enjoy watching the complete domination and display of skill. And who the hell can blame him? What smart fighter would risk their belt to impress morons that only came to see a brawl?
 
#10 ·
You know what, even if GSP isn't a closer I still love to watch the man fight. As far as I'm concerned the man has nothing to be ashamed of performance wise! A fight doesn't need a big finish for it to be good or exciting!

I'll end this post with a question for all you people complaining about GSP not being able to finish? Who in the WW division can beat and finish guys like Josh Koscheck, BJ Penn, Thiago Alves, and John Fitch let alone finishing them? While your answering that question keep in mind why some of these people received a title shot against GSP in the first place!
 
#13 ·
You sure about that?

Its easy to watch a fight and say "Tch, he could have finished him if he just did this or if he did that!" Keep in mind, watching a fight and actually being in one are two different experiences.
 
#14 ·
Perfect gameplan, perfect execution and it was made clear to me that the jab is the worst punch ever to throw in a fight if you have to knock somebody out. I really can't put into words what I'm feeling right now. Yeah, he's great and all, but... man, during the second round I turned on my Playstation and played some FIFA.
 
#16 ·
Honestly if this were a boxing match I think the referee would have stopped it because Koscheck was not being competitive at all and he was just taking an unnecessary beating. As far as I'm concerned that fight was finished way before the bell rang and if there was no time limits GSP obviously would have knocked him out eventually.
Also, are you guys forgetting that GSP finished BJ PENN?! what's all this nonsense about him not being a finisher since matt Serra?
 
#18 ·
GSP proved he is still the best of the best last night. Koscheck was his toughest opponent and even made the wrestling and clinch game competitive. GSP still dominated. No he did not get the KO and yes he possibly could have if he was a more aggressive fighter. I could see that GSP was trying his best to finish and be the aggressor...without putting himself in danger. Even when there was only 10 seconds left in the fight GSP would not abandon his technique and leave himself open. He was being as aggressive as he could be, while still not giving Koscheck even a punchers chance.
 
#19 · (Edited)
I've lost interest in GSP after this fight. He won't move to 185 and there is no one left at 170. This is the first fight where I don't think GSP ever actually tried to finish the fight. Against Hardy just about anyone else would have tapped, others would have been KO'd in the Fitch fight and GSP was hurt against Thiago. But last night GSP jabbed his way to a decision, even when Kos was clearly broken and wanted the fight to be over Georges didn't throw combos and move forward just more safe jabs.

IHMO Kos was right, GSP was afraid of getting tagged again so he used as safe a stand up as possible. Just jab Kos into submission. Kos couldn't take the pain of putting ice on his eye, he couldn't see after the first and GSP just kept throwing a jab. Pretty sure you could count the combos on one hand. And it's not like GSP wasn't landing at will, he outclassed Kos badly. But for the first time I really felt that GSP played it safe and was content to hear the judges decision.
 
#25 ·
I'll be the first to call GSP out for being conservative and boring, but last night was far from that. He schooled Kos the entire fight, it was brilliant.
 
#26 ·
Put me in the decision or not I love watching GSP camp.

He might not "finish" opponents but he destroys their will which is much more impressive imo. All it takes is a lucky punch to "finish" a fight. It takes amazing skill and determination to destroy a fighter to the point where they are waiting for the fight to end. That is what GSP did last night, Koscheck knew he was losing but wouldn't even try for a flash KO because he was physically and mentally beaten. He was just trying to put on a bit of a show and survive the last 2 rounds.
 
#31 ·
The thing is, GSP now has a stigma - that he is boring. Unfortunately, GSP cannot have an exciting 5 round fight - even if he is the one dominating for 25mins - because whenever someone hears his name they think "oh god, he won't finish, here we go for another borefest". I think it's quite ridiculous and very n00bish.
 
#33 · (Edited)
Is GSP Missing a Finish Instinct?

What do you think? For me the answer is pretty clear he doesn't have that instinct to get guys out of there. Maybe he doesn't want to hurt people or maybe it's something else. Some fighters have it in abundance (Penn) and I guess some don't have it at all (GSP).

Also I'm curious how this obvious hole in his game does not tarnish his standings. I'll agree that there is no more talented or even dominant fighter in any weight class (other than Anderson Silva). However, your trapped in a cage with an animal trained to hurt you. Much better to get him out of there, than to spend 25 minutes dodging and pop-shooting him. He's going to eventually or again lose because he is resigned to go the distance and win on points.
 
#36 ·
What do you think? For me the answer is pretty clear he doesn't have that instinct to get guys out of there. Maybe he doesn't want to hurt people or maybe it's something else. Some fighters have it in abundance (Penn) and I guess some don't have it at all (GSP).

Also I'm curious how this obvious hole in his game does not tarnish his standings. I'll agree that there is no more talented or even dominant fighter in any weight class (other than Anderson Silva). However, your trapped in a cage with an animal trained to hurt you. Much better to get him out of there, than to spend 25 minutes dodging and pop-shooting him. He's going to eventually or again lose because he is resigned to go the distance and win on points.
I wouldn't really call it a hole, and I'd say likewise that not going balls to the wall when he smells blood is going to keep his career nice and safe. Fully committing to a sub or dashing with a finishing flurry can both result in exactly the opposite happening.
 
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