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post #1 of 82 (permalink) Old 12-18-2010, 03:36 AM Thread Starter
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Anderson Silva fanboy check. How do u think he ranks compared to boxers?

i'm a fan of silva (my #2 or 3 fave in mma) but it seems like there might be too many unreasonable fanboys of his on here, so i better do a reality check for the well being of those individuals.

how do u rate silva's boxing against that of current boxers?


pacman
floyd mayweather jr
Andre Ward
Andre Dirrell
Sergio Martinez
Miguel Cotto
Andre Berto
Timothy Bradley
Amir Khan
Devon Alexander
Marcos Maidana
Juan Manuel Marquez
Juan Manuel Lopez
David Haye
jean pascal
Shane Mosely


against boxers of the past?

Sugar Ray Robinson
mike tyson
Sugar Ray Leonard
lennox lewis
Marvin Hagler
Roy Jones Jr.
Felix Trinidad
Muhammad Ali
Thomas Hearns
Larry Holmes
Oscar De La Hoya
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What kind of thread is this? Silva is not a boxer and most of those guys aren't even around the same weight class.

So what is the point of this?
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I'm not much of a boxing fan but I would guess most of those guys are better boxers than Anderson. However Anderson is a better MMA fighter than any of them.

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What kind of thread is this? Silva is not a boxer and most of those guys aren't even around the same weight class.

So what is the point of this?
i'm drinking and taking my frustrations in life out on fanboys, so let it be, lol.

boxing is a major aspect of mma and the very aspect people brag about silva so much.

silva seems to think he can fluctuate between weight classes. he's an mw, he's been to lhw, he's stated he would fight leznar and others in the hw div, he's says he would go down in weight to fight gsp, and the few boxers i mentioned who are lighter than ww, well, just compare skill only.
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People don't brag about Andersons boxing, his Muay Thai clinch is phenominal, as are his kicks and his boxing is ahead of most MMA fighters. It is not great by any stretch in comparison to pure boxers. He also has great Jits.

He said he is staying at middle now, not moving up.

Edgar and JDS are both better pure boxers than Anderson IMO. You just have to watch the video of Andy sparring at the wild card gym against a pretty average fighter to know how many fundamental boxing flaws he has. His fight he won at boxing looked decent, but he obviously has very average power, he simply derives his MMA punching power from small gloves and incredible accuracy.
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People don't brag about Andersons boxing, his Muay Thai clinch is phenominal, as are his kicks and his boxing is ahead of most MMA fighters. It is not great by any stretch in comparison to pure boxers. He also has great Jits.

He said he is staying at middle now, not moving up.

Edgar and JDS are both better pure boxers than Anderson IMO. You just have to watch the video of Andy sparring at the wild card gym against a pretty average fighter to know how many fundamental boxing flaws he has. His fight he won at boxing looked decent, but he obviously has very average power, he simply derives his MMA punching power from small gloves and incredible accuracy.
ok, you're a reasonable guy, imo. yeah, i did see silva's sparing session. i guess that tought him a lesson, cuz for awhile it seemed like he wanted to pose as the next roy jones jr- he even called him out for a boxing match, right?
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He did, but he was also probably after a payday that would dwarf any MMA payday he had to date.

Nearly every boxing or MMA fan knew any decent version of Jones would absolutely put on a clinic against Silva in the squared circle under the Marquess of Queensberry rules.

Silva is though, the MMA equivalent of Roy Jones. A real entertainer pulling off spectacular moves. This is why Roy Jones even loves watching him compete in the Octagon.
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Alistair Overeem has a better chance then Silva against Roy Jones. Although still fairly small.
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He did, but he was also probably after a payday that would dwarf any MMA payday he had to date.

Nearly every boxing or MMA fan knew any decent version of Jones would absolutely put on a clinic against Silva in the squared circle under the Marquess of Queensberry rules.

Silva is though, the MMA equivalent of Roy Jones. A real entertainer pulling off spectacular moves. This is why Roy Jones even loves watching him compete in the Octagon.
if the ufc's popularity continues to increase at the rate is has been, maybe we'll see someone w/ top level boxing skills as well as silva's other advantages that u mentioned earlier. it might happen if dana loosens up his pockets.
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I'm sure once people realise how much of a weapon boxing is, it will become a lot larger part of MMA. No doubt about it. Those who can master the sweet science will do extremelly well against a lot of the stand-up fighters out there.

They just need take down defence and submission defence.

Will still be a long time until top level boxers come over though with proper take down and ground defence, there just isn't the money (paydays for fighters) in MMA due to the monopolistic nature of the UFC.
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