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Old 02-05-2007, 02:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I wanted to see Silva win, but I definatly believe those elbows were illegal. He used the point of his elbow! I can't see why the orientation of his body would matter.

If the "up and down" motion was all that mattered, you'd see guys drive elbows into the sides of opponents heads while in side control (that's parallel to the mat) but we don't see that. Or how about when a fighter has his opponent locked up from behind, you never see the fighter infront throw "back elbows".

Even Randy thought thoes 'bows on Lutter were illegal.

Someone else posted this; and we all seem to agree that the rule as is: "No striking downward using the point of the elbow". Isn't clear enough.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:00 PM   #32 (permalink)
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see i think if matt hughes were to move up, he'd have the best chance to beat silva. he'd definitely have to improve his striking so he would have enough time to get a good double leg shot...
Lol you guys are funny, hughes would never ever EVER! even come close to beating silva at 185 lol hughes is big enogh at 170 at 185 he'd be too slow and he would just get worked.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Lol you guys are funny, hughes would never ever EVER! even come close to beating silva at 185 lol hughes is big enogh at 170 at 185 he'd be too slow and he would just get worked.

did you see his last fight vs GSP...he looked like a dwarf next to st pierre. i'm not the only person that could see this happening. read through the other threads dude.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:03 PM   #34 (permalink)
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oh and hughesSucks...i wonder if your username has anything to do with why you disagreed with me.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:04 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Lets face it Silva was very lucky on the ground, Lutter may have lost but has shown the biggest weakness in Silvas game,
Silva will lose to a submission soon unless the UFC protect him and give him average strikers to fight for the knockout hounds that get drunk and moan as soon as fighters start wrestling.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:05 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Lets face it Silva was very lucky on the ground, Lutter may have lost but has shown the biggest weakness in Silvas game,
Silva will lose to a submission soon unless the UFC protect him and give him average strikers to fight for the knockout hounds that get drunk and moan as soon as fighters start wrestling.
lucky?! he swept lutter twice out of the full mount and made lutters armbar attempt look retarded. he also took advantage of lutter standing up while still in guard and triangled him after a wicked upkick. silva did a pretty good job on the ground bro.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:13 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I wanted to see Silva win, but I definatly believe those elbows were illegal. He used the point of his elbow! I can't see why the orientation of his body would matter.

If the "up and down" motion was all that mattered, you'd see guys drive elbows into the sides of opponents heads while in side control (that's parallel to the mat) but we don't see that. Or how about when a fighter has his opponent locked up from behind, you never see the fighter infront throw "back elbows".

Even Randy thought thoes 'bows on Lutter were illegal.

Someone else posted this; and we all seem to agree that the rule as is: "No striking downward using the point of the elbow". Isn't clear enough.
Doesn't look like he was striking downward though... remmeber Lutter was on top of him..

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Old 02-05-2007, 03:27 PM   #38 (permalink)
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not sketchy...

Sure he had to drop weight... so?
Most fighters do... That is something he has COMPLETE and UTTER CONTROL over... its his own dang fault why he isnt in tip top condition before the fight...

How did he end up getting those elbows again?... oh right he got nailed by an UPKICK... not an elbow, thats what got him into the triangle, and finally the elbows...

Upto that point, it was all Lutters game, it was on the ground... what more could he ask for???

There is NO need for rubber match, Lutter didnt make weight... and he showed no clear dominance when it was on the ground.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:49 PM   #39 (permalink)
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The topic of this thread made me laugh. I've seen "sketchy" fights before but this was NOT one of them. So many peeps were talking about Lutter's world class ground game including Lutter himself on "Inside the UFC" with Rogan. How embarrising for Lutter and his fanboys to talk about his ground game and do nothing with it. Yeah he got a couple of takedowns on Silva but all he has to show for them is Silva's highlight sweep and his legal elbows on your dome!
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:53 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Just look at my avatar(props to TREY). He is on an angle and he follows through. They are not direct downward elbows, but rather well placed angled elbows. I am no expert, but I am pretty sure they were legal.
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