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Old 01-04-2011, 10:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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a Cesar Gracie Black belt vs a guy who learned how to properly do an armbar in the locker-room of the Dan Hardy fight. Jake Shields is a 3X all-american wrestler, who will pull guard , sweep gsp , and tko or positionally dominate gsp.
You made me LOL hard with the thought of Jake Shields' pillow hands TKO'ing someone...
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Your exaggerating, shields has a better striking game than most give him credit for, clearly he's not going to win the fight standing but he'll be clinching GSP a lot and trying to take him down from there that in itself will take away some of GSP's advantages striking.

With that said GSP should beat him and do so convincingly.

The OP just sounds like a fanboy to me.
martin kampmann kicked his ass, shields ate about 4 good knees and some easily avoidable punches and shields was trying for dear life to get the takedown, thats why martin was upset for losing while doing more damage
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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How did Kampmann somehow manage to "survive" all the way too a split decision that some people, including me think he won.....
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[quote=HellRazor;1334856]Easy. Shields has been fighting substandard competition. Facing a UFC guy who has zero chance of beating GSP, he struggled.

He won't strugle vs GSP, he'll lose. And in reputation breaking manner.[/QUOTE




substandard competition... jake has a better resume' than gsp..... don't believe me?

1. Dan Henderson 185/ gsp won't fight 185
2. Robbie Lawler / 185
3. Yushin Okami / 185 contender in the ufc
4. Mach Sakurai in his prime
5. Carlos Condit natural born killer
6. Martin Kampmann 170 ufc contender
7. Paul Daley recent 170 contender
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jake shields' resume is more valid
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there was a great fighter roy jones jr... so great, he went to heavyweight... when he came back down in weight , he struggled. jake went to 185 , something gsp said he is TOO SMALL to do. he went back down to 170 and it affected him.

yes, it is way better than the hughes times 3 kos times 2 serra times 2 and penn times 2


enough of the rematches, really.
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I agree with the OP.

If the fight goes to the ground Shields will win. I think it will.

GSP pretty much just has the edge in striking, but his power is weak and Shields can take a big shot.

Shields clearly beat Kampmann, wasn't even close.
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substandard competition... jake has a better resume' than gsp..... don't believe me?

1. Dan Henderson 185/ gsp won't fight 185 The same Henderson who flash koed Shields in the 1st round but the ref didn't see it.
2. Robbie Lawler / 185 The same Lawler who would be thoroughly trounced by GSP even at 185
3. Yushin Okami / 185 contender in the ufc This is a good win but not great
4. Mach Sakurai in his prime Good
5. Carlos Condit natural born killer Good
6. Martin Kampmann 170 ufc contender SHould have been a decision in Kampmann's favor. Shield's was pretty much destroyed in that fight. Only thing he showed was good sub defense.
7. Paul Daley recent 170 contender Would have been horribly outclassed by GSP. Even worse than he was by Kos.
8. Mayhem 185 pounder WHo GSP beat and almost beat Shields.
9. Nick Thompson quality fighter Not a good quality win.
10. Mike "quicksand" Pyle ... just dominated hathaway Right just dominated a kid with good potential but who is way too raw right now.


jake shields' resume is more valid
Hughes 2x (in his prime), Kos 2x, Fitch, BJ 2x, Alves, Hardy, Serra, Mayhem, Trigg (in his prime)

Yeah Shields resume seems great... unless you know what you are talking about. Shields struggled badly against Kampmann. A fighter GSP would have mauled casually. His striking is absolutely awful, he's not even close to explosive or quick, and I just don't think he'll be able to get GSP down.

And GSP isn't just going to give him a standing guillotine like Robbie Lawler.
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there was a great fighter roy jones jr... so great, he went to heavyweight... when he came back down in weight , he struggled. jake went to 185 , something gsp said he is TOO SMALL to do. he went back down to 170 and it affected him.
I think Gsp said when he decides to move up he wants to do it the right way and gain weight gradually. He's gained 7-8 lbs of muscle in the last year and wants to gain the same amount again in the next before moving up.

Like most I believe Henderson was injured, Miller was dominated by GSP, and Robbie Lawler, really?
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I think Gsp said when he decides to move up he wants to do it the right way and gain weight gradually. He's gained 7-8 lbs of muscle in the last year and wants to gain the same amount again in the next before moving up.

Like most I believe Henderson was injured, Miller was dominated by GSP, and Robbie Lawler, really?
Henderson actually confirmed that he was injured and on pain killers when he fought Shields. Which didn't stop him from dropping Jake what three times? Then he gassed after the second and just let Jake coast to the win.
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