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I agree with the OP.

If the fight goes to the ground Shields will win. I think it will.

GSP pretty much just has the edge in striking, but his power is weak and Shields can take a big shot.

Shields clearly beat Kampmann, wasn't even close.
The only way it goes to the ground is if GSP takes it there. Doubt he does anything but uses his boxing in this fight but he'll be fine either way.
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Jake won that fight, hard for me to see it any other way. kampmann has good stand up and came into the fight knowing he needed a win but I never saw him hurt Shields in that fight, point blank what he did was not enough.

Its not like he's some kind of can, kampmann is a well rounded fighter with fast hands. I understand some dont like shields fightstyle but to let that cloud your judgment enough to say he got his ass kicked is one of two things.

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Actually he dropped Shields a couple of times in the clinch. There was a particularly vicious knee in the 3rd round that dropped him hard. So he was hurt multiple times. I firmly believe that if Kampmann hadn't followed him to the ground when he was hurt he would have won. Easily at that.

And I am neith a hugger nor a hater. I don't really care about Kampmann or Shields.

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The only way it goes to the ground is if GSP takes it there. Doubt he does anything but uses his boxing in this fight but he'll be fine either way.
Shields is a great collegiate wrestler, not only can he take GSP down, he can pull guard as well.

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Shields is a great collegiate wrestler, not only can he take GSP down, he can pull guard as well.
Kos is a better one and we see how that worked out right?

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Hughes 2x (in his prime), Kos 2x, Fitch, BJ 2x, Alves, Hardy, Serra, Mayhem, Trigg (in his prime)

Yeah Shields resume seems great... unless you know what you are talking about. Shields struggled badly against Kampmann. A fighter GSP would have mauled casually. His striking is absolutely awful, he's not even close to explosive or quick, and I just don't think he'll be able to get GSP down.

And GSP isn't just going to give him a standing guillotine like Robbie Lawler.
He never beat Hughes in his prime. Hughes was on the downslide of his career even the first time GSP beat him. Get out with that shit. Serra knocked his ass out and is mediocre at best.

The best names on his resume are Kos, BJ, Fitch, Alves.

BJ obviously being blown up and undersized and Alves being weight drained to hell. So, yeah, he beat Koscheck and Fitch. Cool. Shields is much better than both of those guys in grappling.

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Kos is a better one and we see how that worked out right?

Stuffing nearly all of GSP's TDs? Getting the takedown one of the only times he tried?

Yeah, worked out pretty well. If Kos wasn't a mental midget and didn't think he could win every fight by loading up and landing one overhand right he might've won that fight.

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Shields is a great collegiate wrestler, not only can he take GSP down, he can pull guard as well.
How many great collegiate wrestlers has GSP dominated in that exact discipline? This isn't collegiate wrestling either. His MMA wrestling is on another level.

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a Cesar Gracie Black belt vs a guy who learned how to properly do an armbar in the locker-room of the Dan Hardy fight. Jake Shields is a 3X all-american wrestler, who will pull guard , sweep gsp , and tko or positionally dominate gsp.
shields pulls guard and sweeps him ill eat my dick.

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He never beat Hughes in his prime. Hughes was on the downslide of his career even the first time GSP beat him. Get out with that shit. Serra knocked his ass out and is mediocre at best.

The best names on his resume are Kos, BJ, Fitch, Alves.

BJ obviously being blown up and undersized and Alves being weight drained to hell. So, yeah, he beat Koscheck and Fitch. Cool. Shields is much better than both of those guys in grappling.
Hughes was on the down-slide while he was the reigning WW champion? On a 6 fight win streak and coming off a win vs. BJ?

And what is with the excuses for BJ and Alves? BJ is back at 170 now and Alves still fights there comfortbly making weight now. Now of that amkes any sense.


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