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Evan Dunham 28 57.14%
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree, Dunham would be smart to grapple with him as he has the distinct advantage. I just don't see why Guillard should be a feared striker. Anyone with power should be respected for what they could do. But I think Dunham could outstrike him, perhaps not finish him standing...but he could out strike him. It isn't the smarter way to try to win that fight but I don't see Guillard as some real good striker.
What has Evan Dunham done that would prompt you to beleive that he can outstrike Melvin Guilard??

You know that Melvin Guillard is the only fighter to stop Dennis Siver with strikes right?
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Melvin is not that great, again he's got speed and power but its like mickey mouse wielding he-man's sword. Nate was able to stand with him and started to really turn it on.

Let me be more clear I didn't say he should stand and trade but he can and IMO should win the stand up by fighting smart.

Melvin is not only a underachiever your overrating him as well. Dose he have a KO/tko to be proud of? You know, a win thats says hay not only can I KO scrubs but I can KO competitors like maybe a top ten guy? The answer is no he doesn't and I dont think he'll get that win against Dunham.
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What has Evan Dunham done that would prompt you to beleive that he can outstrike Melvin Guilard??

You know that Melvin Guillard is the only fighter to stop Dennis Siver with strikes right?
Im not sure why someone like Dennis Silver, a nobody who's beaten nobody and been beaten by more than one nobody, how can he be used as a measuring stick for anything?

I like Melvin he always looks like he's right on the edge of putting the pieces together but has never once delivered when I thought he could have and Jackson probably wont be able to change anything enough to matter.
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Melvin is not that great, again he's got speed and power but its like mickey mouse wielding he-man's sword. Nate was able to stand with him and started to really turn it on.

Let me be more clear I didn't say he should stand and trade but he can and IMO should win the stand up by fighting smart.

Melvin is not only a underachiever your overrating him as well. Dose he have a KO/tko to be proud of? You know, a win thats says hay not only can I KO scrubs but I can KO competitors like maybe a top ten guy? The answer is no he doesn't and I dont think he'll get that win against Dunham.


Im not sure why someone like Dennis Silver, a nobody who's beaten nobody and been beaten by more than one nobody, how can he be used as a measuring stick for anything?

I like Melvin he always looks like he's right on the edge of putting the pieces together but has never once delivered when I thought he could have and Jackson probably wont be able to change anything enough to matter.
This is a ridiculous statement. Way to avoid the question as well. Guillard has double digit kos, including several in the UFC, include punches and knees to the body, one punch KOs. He also outpointed Jeremy Stephens, a fighter known almost exclusively for striking ability, and KO'd Siver, another big striker. Second of all, I recommend contacts, as glasses are becoming out of style if you think Diaz was winning that fight before Melvin dove into a guillotine. He completely was outclassing Diaz, Diaz only has a sturdy chin to thank for not being knocked out.

Dunham has stopped two nobodies who will never get anywhere near the Octagon for the rest of their lives unless they buy a ticket, and busted up an old ass non-striker in Sherk coming off a huge layoff and apparently now he's Manny Pacquiao.

Furthermore, your logic is so poor it makes my brain hurt. Top 10 ranking =/= Ability.

This is like saying Brock Lesnar can outstrike JDS because JDS has only struck guys outside of the top 10, like Yvel and Cro Cop.

But Lesnar KO'd Couture! And he was the champ!

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Im not sure why someone like Dennis Silver, a nobody who's beaten nobody and been beaten by more than one nobody, how can he be used as a measuring stick for anything?

I like Melvin he always looks like he's right on the edge of putting the pieces together but has never once delivered when I thought he could have and Jackson probably wont be able to change anything enough to matter.
We're not talking about who Dennis Siver has beaten. We are talking striking pedigree.

And Dennis Siver is a powerful LW striker. Champion kickboxer in his country. And Melvin shut him down and sent him home.

So when people say that Melvin hasn't stopped somebody known for their striking they need to look at that fight.
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Dunham by tko. Bold prediction but i feel hes improved enough in the stand up aspect and if he cant stand with him he'll submit him

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I feel like Melvin wins this one!

His TDD is strong and even if Dunham get's him down, I don't see why Melvin shouldn't be able to get back up again. He's a top notch athlet.

And on the feet, Melvin is far ahead in my mind!
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We're not talking about who Dennis Siver has beaten. We are talking striking pedigree.

And Dennis Siver is a powerful LW striker. Champion kickboxer in his country. And Melvin shut him down and sent him home.

So when people say that Melvin hasn't stopped somebody known for their striking they need to look at that fight.
Siver has won like twice as many fights by submission than TKO/KO. He may have backgrounds, but it doesn't translate to MMA that well. Ross Pearson was able to stand with him.

Guillard is more dangerous on the feet than he is on the ground. But he isn't a world beater striking. His striking is actually pretty sloppy.
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Siver has won like twice as many fights by submission than TKO/KO. He may have backgrounds, but it doesn't translate to MMA that well. Ross Pearson was able to stand with him.
You've got to be kidding me. You're saying that just because Dennis Siver is well rounded and has more wins by submission that his striking pedigree doesn't traslate well into his MMA? Tell me I didn't hear that right.

SIver's a beast with his stand up. German kickboxing champion clean crisp and powerful and Melvin was able to blast him...

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Guillard is more dangerous on the feet than he is on the ground. But he isn't a world beater striking. His striking is actually pretty sloppy.
Melvin Guillard does not have sloppy striking. He has super heavy hands, is very explosive and is very hard to hit.

You do realize that in 38 professional fights Melvin Guillard has never been stopped with strikes.... And he stands with everybody he can. For a guy with "sloppy striking" he must be pretty damn lucky than becuase this guy doesn't make it a habit to instigate takedowns...

He stands and bangs. And he KOs alot of opponents.
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IMHO melvin has some of the best striking at LW, he uses all limbs well, has great power and speed, and great elusiveness. his fight with stephens showed his technical side.
If dunham tries to stand and trade he's be schooled all night and maybe ko'ed.

melvin has ok TDD and poor sub defense. jackson seems to have pluged the hole that was his poor cardio, what remains is to see where his sub defense is.

I think this fight depends on what melvin turns up, and if he's evolved any ground game.
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This is a ridiculous statement. Way to avoid the question as well. Guillard has double digit kos, including several in the UFC, include punches and knees to the body, one punch KOs. He also outpointed Jeremy Stephens, a fighter known almost exclusively for striking ability, and KO'd Siver, another big striker. Second of all, I recommend contacts, as glasses are becoming out of style if you think Diaz was winning that fight before Melvin dove into a guillotine. He completely was outclassing Diaz, Diaz only has a sturdy chin to thank for not being knocked out.

Dunham has stopped two nobodies who will never get anywhere near the Octagon for the rest of their lives unless they buy a ticket, and busted up an old ass non-striker in Sherk coming off a huge layoff and apparently now he's Manny Pacquiao.

Furthermore, your logic is so poor it makes my brain hurt. Top 10 ranking =/= Ability.

This is like saying Brock Lesnar can outstrike JDS because JDS has only struck guys outside of the top 10, like Yvel and Cro Cop.

But Lesnar KO'd Couture! And he was the champ!
Its not ridiculous its true, the fighters he has ko'd are B class at best, you just think you see a opportunity to prove me wrong. Point me to a fighter thats RELEVANT that he ko/tko'd... If you cant and you cant then his only real tests striking have been Fisher and Melven and he lost to both along with gray, sorry but unless his game improves a great deal there is no way he should be considered a top striker at LW especially when you consider all the strikers in the division with him.

As far as Daiz and the glasses its not like your opinion has any value, just your opinion on Sherk shows how simple minded you are so why would I care what you think? You might be the one person on this forum I fee has absolutely nothing worth reading.

Silver was beat by Ross Pearson another b class fighter, point blank he's not going to be a top striker and I doubt he's ever going to get a title shot because he cant beat/out strike the top five fighters.

Sherk may not be the best striker but he's not the worst and he'd take silver down and smash him.

Jeremy Stephens is who you think of when someone says dominant striker in the division?

I get the impression your brain hurts a lot when you try to wrap your mind around logic of any kind TBH.

Melvin has to keep the fight standing something he's not that good at right now, his TDD is average and his ground game needs a ton of work that means he'll be fighting defensively and that means he has to change his striking, that should allow Dunham to be more competitive standing.
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