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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 01-20-2011, 08:57 AM
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More than definitely Bader beating Jones. Come on, Chael Sonnen caught Silva and Vitor is far superior striker than Sonnen.

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Neither, but if I had to choose I'd say Bader whooping Bones.

Vitor dropping somebody isn't really a surprise because that's what happens when Vitor fights... unless he loses.




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I think Belfort has more of a chance than Bader does. Bader's wrestling didn't even look great againts lil nog.

That said, I think it'd be more "shocking" to see Silva KO'd.
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I'd be more surprised if Bader beats JBJ. I'm not one who thinks JBJ is "all that" by any stretch of the imagination. But Bader has looked terrible, and lost his last fight IMO. I will be amazed if he doesn't get wrecked.

As for AS vs VB. I think Silva will win, but I think if Vitor hits him, he very well could hurt him. That's why I wouldn't be as surprised. I think I'll know if Vitor won or lost the fight in the first 30 seconds to be honest. If he stands in front of AS and let's him dictate the pace, he lost. If he gets in there and brings the fight to him like Vitor has done before, I think his chances are good.
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I think Belfort has more of a chance than Bader does. Bader's wrestling didn't even look great againts lil nog.

That said, I think it'd be more "shocking" to see Silva KO'd.
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post #16 of 34 (permalink) Old 01-20-2011, 01:40 PM
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Bader whooping Jones would be more shocking, Belfort hits hard and one solid shot could drop Silva.

Bader isn't gonna "whoop" Jones though, just very unlikely due to the styles they bring to the table.

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Definitely Vitor dropping Anderson. I'd go nucking futs dude... I won't even lie. Even if I expect it... (And I do) It's Anderson Silva. Seeing him get dropped live would be freaking insane.

I actually think people shouldn't underestimate Bader but they will because of Jones's hype train. We'll see.
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vitor dropping silva or Bader whooping Jones?
Most are way off.

Neither would be a total shock, but I think Vitor is more outmatched than Bader. Bader is a very strong wrestler with power in both hands, and has had tougher matchups then Jones overall. He seems to be the type of style that could beat Jones. Jones usually has a strength advantage over his opponents. I don't think he's faced any one of Bader's caliber. Bader can land the big punch or can take things to the ground.

Vitor has great boxing and speed, but I'm not sure that poses as big a problem for Silva, with his great skills and head movement. Silva also have more striking weapons and possibly more speed. He certainly has the reach advantage. I think he's also better on the ground, particularly ground striking.

Vitor's would be the bigger upset.

I'll go out on the limb right now. Silva KO over Belfort, Bader TKO over Jones.

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I'd vote neither. Vitor has fast hands and put you to sleep power and all we know about Jones is his offense. Whats his chin like? whats he like off his back? There is still alot of questions out about Jones so if hes gets exposed or exploited in an untested area I wouldnt be shocked at all.
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Most are way off.
Bader is a very strong wrestler with power in both hands, and has had tougher matchups then Jones overall.
He is a strong wrestler....but he hasn't shown it that much in MMA. What I've seen is a guy that is a better wrestler than his opponents...but doesn't dominate them.

You can say Bader has had tougher opponents and it'd be a fact.

But I'd rather have complete domination's over O'Brien, Bonnar, Vera, Hamill, and the Janitor than Bader's career. He won TUF. KO'd Jardine, but he is 1-5 over his last 6, and so didn't Houston Alexander. Then he has a couple of Dec. wins and a fight where he struggled on more than half of his TDs.

Bader has the 2 bigger names, but Jones has had solid opponents the whole way through...all known guys...and he dominated every single one of them.

I'm a Nog fan. But he hasn't exactly impressed lately. I think that win is far less impressive after the Brilz match happened before that.

And I don't want to hate on Jardine. But in the last 3.5 years he has 3 wins and 7 losses. His wins are...Francisco France by Dec., Chuck Liddell by SPLIT Dec., Brandon Vera by SPLIT Dec....pretty ugly.

Hamill beat Jardine....so who is the better opponent out of those 2? The more I think about it Jones has defiantly had the tougher UFC career. He has just made it look easy. Bader has the 1 win vs. Lil Nog that makes everyone think he has done more.

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