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Which Would be more shocking?

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#1 ·
vitor dropping silva or Bader whooping Jones?
 
#4 ·
I give Bader more chance against Jones than Belfort against Silva.
 
#6 ·
baber beating jones imo based on the fact anderson was caught was by sonnen and he is now 36! years old his reactions are slowing and i feel its only a matter of time :/
 
#7 ·
Going to have to agree with Bader beating Jones. I know a lot of people aren't sold on him yet, but I am. As someone mentioned, Sonnen caught Silva and Sonnen is far from a striker. On top of that, Silva let his pride get in the way and completely dropped his hands after. If he tries something like that against Belfort he'll get hit 15 times before he touches the canvas.

Don't get me wrong, I fully expect Silva to pick apart Belfor; but I wouldn't be all that amazed to see an upset. Jones on the other hand I believe will be a future champ and rule the division until he is in his late 30's.
 
#10 ·
Bader beating Jones imo. Vitor's standup is not to be under estimated. I don't see Bader giving Jones a tough time tbh, I think he'll be dispatched quickly.
 
#14 ·
I'd be more surprised if Bader beats JBJ. I'm not one who thinks JBJ is "all that" by any stretch of the imagination. But Bader has looked terrible, and lost his last fight IMO. I will be amazed if he doesn't get wrecked.

As for AS vs VB. I think Silva will win, but I think if Vitor hits him, he very well could hurt him. That's why I wouldn't be as surprised. I think I'll know if Vitor won or lost the fight in the first 30 seconds to be honest. If he stands in front of AS and let's him dictate the pace, he lost. If he gets in there and brings the fight to him like Vitor has done before, I think his chances are good.
 
#17 ·
Definitely Vitor dropping Anderson. I'd go nucking futs dude... I won't even lie. Even if I expect it... (And I do) It's Anderson Silva. Seeing him get dropped live would be freaking insane.

I actually think people shouldn't underestimate Bader but they will because of Jones's hype train. We'll see.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Most are way off.

Neither would be a total shock, but I think Vitor is more outmatched than Bader. Bader is a very strong wrestler with power in both hands, and has had tougher matchups then Jones overall. He seems to be the type of style that could beat Jones. Jones usually has a strength advantage over his opponents. I don't think he's faced any one of Bader's caliber. Bader can land the big punch or can take things to the ground.

Vitor has great boxing and speed, but I'm not sure that poses as big a problem for Silva, with his great skills and head movement. Silva also have more striking weapons and possibly more speed. He certainly has the reach advantage. I think he's also better on the ground, particularly ground striking.

Vitor's would be the bigger upset.

I'll go out on the limb right now. Silva KO over Belfort, Bader TKO over Jones. :confused05:
 
#20 · (Edited)
Most are way off.
Bader is a very strong wrestler with power in both hands, and has had tougher matchups then Jones overall. :confused05:
He is a strong wrestler....but he hasn't shown it that much in MMA. What I've seen is a guy that is a better wrestler than his opponents...but doesn't dominate them.

You can say Bader has had tougher opponents and it'd be a fact.

But I'd rather have complete domination's over O'Brien, Bonnar, Vera, Hamill, and the Janitor than Bader's career. He won TUF. KO'd Jardine, but he is 1-5 over his last 6, and so didn't Houston Alexander. Then he has a couple of Dec. wins and a fight where he struggled on more than half of his TDs.

Bader has the 2 bigger names, but Jones has had solid opponents the whole way through...all known guys...and he dominated every single one of them.

I'm a Nog fan. But he hasn't exactly impressed lately. I think that win is far less impressive after the Brilz match happened before that.

And I don't want to hate on Jardine. But in the last 3.5 years he has 3 wins and 7 losses. His wins are...Francisco France by Dec., Chuck Liddell by SPLIT Dec., Brandon Vera by SPLIT Dec....pretty ugly.

Hamill beat Jardine....so who is the better opponent out of those 2? The more I think about it Jones has defiantly had the tougher UFC career. He has just made it look easy. Bader has the 1 win vs. Lil Nog that makes everyone think he has done more.
 
#19 ·
I'd vote neither. Vitor has fast hands and put you to sleep power and all we know about Jones is his offense. Whats his chin like? whats he like off his back? There is still alot of questions out about Jones so if hes gets exposed or exploited in an untested area I wouldnt be shocked at all.
 
#24 ·
Sonnen dropped Silve a couple of time standing so i don't think it would be any suprice to see Vitor do it. So i think Bader beating Bones would be a bigger suprise, but even that wouldnt be the biggest shock in the world.
 
#27 ·
Jones is about about two leagues higher than Bader, Belfort could win IMO. Belfort has been sick lately and is coming in better, he very well could be the guy that beats Silva that has been laying dormant after injury before his camp for this fight and being 36 y.o. - aren't good signs - for a guy whose biggest attributes have been speed and reflexes.

Belfort - health (belfort was ready last November while Silva was still recovering), youth, takedowns (solid), GnP (brutal), hand speed (fast), power (outstanding), in the clinch (strong), BJJ (top notch)

Belfort ending Silva's reign would be shocking in the sense that he ended Anderson Silva's long reign as champion, but he has a good chance. His last two fights, Lawler was one thing, but he showed absolute dominance over Franklin before he unloaded the Fflurry to KO him - the only person to brutalize Ace was a younger, healthier Silva... though Silva did it in more patient, counter striking fashion.

Bader isn't that much better of a striker than Vera or Hammill IMO, his takedowns are good, not great, while Jones has showed absolute dominance, never been in trouble, I see Jones imposing whatever game plan he has in mind and finishing. Bader winning would be more shocking from a match-up stand point.
 
#32 ·
As much as I see JBJ as being hugely overhyped I find Bader to be even more so. He struggled to a victory against lil nog, if you can call it a victory, and I've just never been impressed with him. On the other hand Silva has show some frailties of late and with Vitor anything can happen, although I expect Silva and JBJ to come out winners.
 
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