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Old 01-28-2011, 12:32 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I think he's one or two fights away from a title shot. He's 5-0 right now, the Karo NC sort of threw things off for him.

I say give him the loser of Story/Alves. If he wins that fight that will put him in the top five and in the mix for a title shot.
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No way! I see Kim dominating him on the ground, just like the Diaz fight. Kampmann isn't that good of a grappler. However he will most likely lose the third round because of his cardio.
Kampmann is a vastly superior grappler to Diaz especially in the clinch standing and is much larger. Nate should be at 155 and Kampmann was a top 10 quality fighter at 185 if they fought Nate would be destroyed within a few minutes. StunGun would have a ton of trouble taking him down and get wrecked standing. It is a terrible matchup for him because Kampmann can nullify basically all of his strengths.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:55 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Kampmann is a vastly superior grappler to Diaz especially in the clinch standing and is much larger. Nate should be at 155 and Kampmann was a top 10 quality fighter at 185 if they fought Nate would be destroyed within a few minutes. StunGun would have a ton of trouble taking him down and get wrecked standing. It is a terrible matchup for him because Kampmann can nullify basically all of his strengths.
Kampmann isn't a World Beater on the feet osmium. He's afraid to let his hands go, especially when he faces a top Level grappler in Kim or Shields. He couldn't even TKO a fully gassed Jake Shields in 10 minutes.

Even a totally gassed Jake Shields could take Kampmann down.

I have almost no concerns that Kim could take him down almost evertime he attempts too
Only of course if he doesn't gas out again, he could very well dominate Kampmann for the entire 15 minutes of the fight.
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Old 01-28-2011, 01:04 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Kampmann isn't a World Beater on the feet osmium. He's afraid to let his hands go, especially when he faces a top Level grappler in Kim or Shields. He couldn't even TKO a fully gassed Jake Shields in 10 minutes.

Even a totally gassed Jake Shields could take Kampmann down.

I have almost no concerns that Kim could take him down almost evertime he attempts too
Only of course if he doesn't gas out again, he could very well dominate Kampmann for the entire 15 minutes of the fight.
I don't think it's as black and white as that. Kampmann overrespected Shields' takedowns and was scared to let his hands go. He has power and from what I saw, all Kim has standing up are leg kicks. I also know he doesn't like getting hit whatsoever.
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I don't think it's as black and white as that. Kampmann overrespected Shields' takedowns and was scared to let his hands go. He has power and from what I saw, all Kim has standing up are leg kicks. I also know he doesn't like getting hit whatsoever.
Oh, you can certainly generalize this very well. There's a lot of tape out there. When a good striker faces an elite grappler, he can not go all out.. especially not when you face a grappler with outstanding top control. Because you will not get back up after one little mistake standing up.
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Oh, you can certainly generalize this very well. There's a lot of tape out there. When a good striker faces an elite grappler, he can not go all out.. especially not when you face a grappler with outstanding top control. Because you will not get back up after one little mistake standing up.
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I was only talking about the majority! I know there are dozens of examples who say otherwise.
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I was only talking about the majority! I know there are dozens of examples who say otherwise.
It kust so happens those three all had good TDD, just like Kampmann.
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It kust so happens those three all had good TDD, just like Kampmann.
All of them have better TDD then Kampmann by far!
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All of them have better TDD then Kampmann by far!
Kampmann has good TDD though. Kim is no Couture or Hendo in the takedown dept. either.
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