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View Poll Results: Which fighter's athleticism separates him from his division the MOST
Melvin Guillard 6 7.32%
Gray Maynard 0 0%
GSP 42 51.22%
Josh Koscheck 0 0%
Vitor Belfort 0 0%
Anderson Silva 4 4.88%
Phil Davis 2 2.44%
Rashad Evans 1 1.22%
Jon Jones 12 14.63%
Lyoto Machida 0 0%
Brock Lesnar 13 15.85%
Cain Valasquez 1 1.22%
Other (specify) 1 1.22%
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post #11 of 55 (permalink) Old 01-27-2011, 05:49 PM
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Fair enough. Then let me use a different scenario...

My friend and I are training for head kicks. Neither of us have trained for it before and neither of us have done yoga or any other kind of stretching. I can't kick above my waste but my friend can. No amount of listening will allow me to master this skill faster than my friend
But, that means your friend has already mastered that skill beforehand? Thats like telling two guys to choke a guy out. One is able to by rear naked and the other has no idea. It doesn't the first man is faster at mastering it, it means he already has it mastered before he started.

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GSP for being an all around specimen and Aldo for being so coordinated and agile that he could've been pro in a number of different sports with adequate training.

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Each division seems to have one athlete that separates himself from the rest of his weight class. My question is, who separates himself the MOST from his division?

Now, athleticism can be interpreted differently (I guess). So let me clarify what I mean (and I'll provide examples):
-Skill does NOT matter
-How quick you can learn skills does (GSP is often considered a "sponge")
-Speed/quickness (Guillard footwork and hand speed)
-Strength (Kos' drive for takedowns AND KO power)
-Range (Machida darts in and out without getting hit)
-Precision strikes (Anderson Silva with 68% of his strikes successful)
No question in my mind : Bones
Hes a freak of nature. Hes 23. If you compare where the other fighters in question were at 23... there is a chasm of difference. Bones has the most natural ability by far.
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Tough one, very tough, but i gotta stick with Roy Nelson. Such a raw athlete.
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No question in my mind : Bones
Hes a freak of nature. Hes 23. If you compare where the other fighters in question were at 23... there is a chasm of difference. Bones has the most natural ability by far.
I'd also say the most "natural" would be Jones or Aldo. Aldo is just as young as Jones.. With the proper training and lifestyle, almost anyone can turn into an athlete, but I think these two guys are far above the others naturally. For instance, if none of these guys that are mentioned have never trained or played any sport in their life, Jones and Aldo would probably be the standout athletes out of all of the mentioned fighters, and Guillard wouldn't be far behind. GSP has shaped himself into a great athlete, but I wouldn't say he is as natural as these three I mentioned.

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Y is this even a debate? The answer plain and simple is anderson silva. Just look at the way he moves then name one guy in the division that comes close. Gsp is a good athelete but there are guys who can compete with him such as fitch,sanchez,penn all great athletes to. I would say jon jones might be second. However silva has the biggest gap in his division.

Reason y jones is not number one is the gap in his division is not that big...guys like evans can be compare. Then if you throw in anderson silva in the lhw division its very debatable. Jones is nice but silva is on a different level at this point. Silva speed/reaction time/accuracy is just outstanding compared to jones at this time.
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That's a bad example and not everyone learns at the same pace. Has nothing to really do with just listening. Some people are visual learners, some can learn by listening and some have to do both and do it over and over to learn it.
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But, that means your friend has already mastered that skill beforehand? Thats like telling two guys to choke a guy out. One is able to by rear naked and the other has no idea. It doesn't the first man is faster at mastering it, it means he already has it mastered before he started.
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Pat Barry > Brock and Cain at HW TBH. Seen the video of him doing backflip's from one of the Countdown shows? The man is a remarkable athlete.

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I think Anderson got the greatest gift from all of them in that list.
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Y is this even a debate? The answer plain and simple is anderson silva.
Many don't agree with you. That's reason enough for the debate

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Pat Barry > Brock and Cain at HW TBH. Seen the video of him doing backflip's from one of the Countdown shows? The man is a remarkable athlete.
You're right, I could've and probably should've added him to the list. He slipped my mind.
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