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post #51 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-09-2007, 05:37 PM
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stop using his Mezger fight as an example, it was six years ago........................

Wanderlei Silva lost to Tito Ortiz like what 7 years ago? do you compare that to who he is now? didn't think so...

and Chuck WON his fight against Mezger..psh.
have to use examples about previous fights he's had with people that are good Strikers(how else are we going to speculate how he would do against strikers?)...pretty bad when we have to go back 4 years to find the last one he faced. if faced with a top tier striker today i think he would be picked apart. looking good against grapplers is easy, not so much against a fellow striker.

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post #52 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-09-2007, 06:57 PM
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i think something a lot of you are forgetting is his footwork. its not just a simple "throw punch, throw kick" etc etc. if you watch chucks first fight with randy he was predictable in his movements, he showed angles to randy that gave randy the opportunity to impose his will. match 2 and 3, chuck was moving around more, back forth, to and fro, up down. he's more accurate than he used to be and he doesnt expose himself as much as he used to. i still think the best matchup for him is wandy, i think chuck will be able to pick apart rampage. maybe not destroy him or knock him out, but outscore him for sure. wandy's a whole nother kinda problem for chuck.
i agree. chuck was a different fighter when he lost to rampage and randy. his accuracy has increase, along with his footwork, and his counter punches. i think he will beat rampage but i don't know about silva




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i agree. chuck was a different fighter when he lost to rampage and randy. his accuracy has increase, along with his footwork, and his counter punches. i think he will beat rampage but i don't know about silva

I think Rampage is going to tear chuck a new one. I like chuck, I aslo like rampage, but chuck has looked kind of vulnerable in his last few fights. It seems more like he one by the other guy screwing up than by him really doing anything to spectacular.

But that is one of chuck's greatest strengths, he's an excellent counterpuncher who can capitalize on those mistakes with one or two power bomb shots. He's also got a rock solid chin.

Rampage also has a pretty solid chin too though, and I think he could stand and trade with chuck long enough to get a clinch and a takedown, maybe a slam. Either way, if it happens, it's gonna be a damn good fight.

Plus, if chuck does beat rampage, he hsould either fight wandy or retire because he has nobody left to fight.
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The first time they fought Streetsoldier, who normally fights in a classic boxing stance, attacked in a peek-a-boo style, staying low and shooting medium ranged looping punches, then once inside he scooped Liddell, slammed him and punished him on the ground.

Nowadays Rampage, who has made some changes to his approach to his game, trains diligently and is taking this run seriously.

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He wouldnt look nearly as dominant against another striker. But he has his crazy power to rely on. Whatch his fights with Overeem and Mezger. He is clearly losing those fights before landing the big shot. But that being said, Chuck is dangerous against anyone.

Well anyone with knockout power is a threat to anyone they fight. That is just how fighting goes. "A punchers chance".

Chuck is a little sloppy, he isn't technical, but he isn't a very "good" striker. He does hit HORRIBLY strong.
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have to use examples about previous fights he's had with people that are good Strikers(how else are we going to speculate how he would do against strikers?)...pretty bad when we have to go back 4 years to find the last one he faced. if faced with a top tier striker today i think he would be picked apart. looking good against grapplers is easy, not so much against a fellow striker.

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I understand that, what im saying though is even if he hasnt faced great strikers within these last few years he still will progress from training, 6 years training on a fighting style what do you expect?

This topic should be changed to "will Chuck be overwhelmed by a striker?" because he hasnt fought a striker in a while, which would mean yes he can stand with them but will not facing a great striker in sometime put him off of his game?

and i dont think it will.

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