Hamill is a good wrestler but he doesn't have the same wrestling that Bader has. I would be very surprised if Jones could toss around Bader the same way. Striking wise is up in the air for me. Jones while very unorthodox does not have the power that Bader has. Bader can end fights with one punch.
All in all, this fight could go either way, I am just leaning torwards Bader here.
I think because these guys are both undefeated young prospects, some people are thinking this is an evenly matched fight but that is not the case at all. Bones is a far superior fighter IMO and will dominate Bader the same way he has to everybody else.
Bones is much more versatile, athletic, and honestly I don't think Bader can take him down. Not only that but IF the fight lasts til the third round Bader will probably gas to Bones's frenetic pace and athleticism.
I think because these guys are both undefeated young prospects, some people are thinking this is an evenly matched fight but that is not the case at all. Bones is a far superior fighter IMO and will dominate Bader the same way he has to everybody else.
Bones is much more versatile, athletic, and honestly I don't think Bader can take him down. Not only that but IF the fight lasts til the third round Bader will probably gas to Bones's frenetic pace and athleticism.
but he is in my eyes, I expect he will ragdoll and dominate bader just like he has opponents in his last few fights, bader is solid but bring nothing special to the table.
bones seems to have that aura bout him that he's special, and that's y ppl are on his bandwagon
I'm picking Jones here, but I don't expect Jones to just clinch and rag doll him in the first round. Bader is a beast with great wrestling credentials. Better credentials than Hamill, and he is significantly stronger than Hamill in my opinion as well. I know some of you expect a repeat of Jones' previous fights, but Bader is a step up from Hamill and Matyushenko
Don't get me wrong, I think that Jones will win with an impressive performance, but Bader is not an easy opponent by any means. This is actually a good thing. A hard fought win over a tough fighter like Bader can only make Jones a more improved and experienced fighter. We've seen what happens to fighters that steam roll over opponents, but then have to face adversity against a tough opponent that won't go down easily. Guys like Sokoudjou and Vera are good examples. They seem to crumble once things start to not go their way.
I don't think that will be the case with Jones, but that is why facing tough opponents before he reaches the top 5 will be a good thing for him long term. Seeing guys get impressive wins over okay fighters, but then jump to top 5 fighters can back fire. Jones chose a smart road.
Both Jones and Bader have huge question marks surrounding their abilities. We have yet to see either one truly tested inside the Octagon. If Jones walks through Bader or vica versa, it tells us nothing about them.Instead they should have made them fight with someone of their own capabilities.
Like most on these forums, i'm going with Bones. However, certainly not by complete domination. This fight will most likely be a lot closer than a lot seem to think.
I'm a little disappointed in Jones for being a weirdo at the pre-fight I won't lie.
I like Jones in this fight. He hasn't looked bad against any wrestlers and ragdolled Vera, which Couture couldn't exactly do, and Matt Hammill (like he wasn't going to win that fight).
Said it from day one, Jones via tko early in the third.. Te fight wont get going until the second round and Bader will be hanging on come the bell to end the second.. The third wont last longer than 3 minutes..
Gotta agree with Bader though these guys are the future of the LHW division. Whoever wins this fight is going to be the title holder here really soon. Bones always disrespects his opponent before the fight. It is part of his way of getting into the mood to crush his opponent. The looking away and not shaking hands is nothing new.
SO.
I'm gonna go with Jones in this one.
Because i just think he is a better fighter than Bader.
Not because of his flashy moves and his unorthodox style, but because i believe he is more skilled, has a bigger killer instinct, his ground game is better and he has Greg Jackson in his corner.
Bader has good wrestling, but it's too...wrestling. Double leg takedowns are his signature. And another thing, he uses those to also set up his big right hand.
That's where he is dangerous on the feet: he pack s a lot of power in that right and can end fights with one punch, although he did it only once against Magalhaes.
He rocked Schafer and Nog with that right but they recovered. One thing though, He puts so much in that punch that it wears him out. And it's gonna be the same this time also.
Jones' striking isn't the best in the division, but he said it's improving more and more. But he doesn't need to rely on it that much: his movement, kicks, elbows, faints and all other tricks are enough to get him where he wants to be - in close so he can pull some greco-roman on Bader, some signature leg trips. And once it goes to the ground with Jones on top, i think he will dominate.
I see Jones geting the TKO victory. Or a UD if it goes to the 3rd with Jones having won the first 2 rounds. (Greg jackson knows best)
Bader is one of those fighters who everyone says is an absolute monster in training but doesn't quite put it all together come fight night.
mike pyle is another one of those fighters and only just recently put it all together and looked GREAT against hathaway, if bader can do that then he can pull of the upset but if not, well then he is gonna end up on jones resume in devastating and quick fasion.
I'm going to eat up the Jon Bones Jones Hype by the spoonful. I really think he IS that good despite others saying he hasn't been truly tested.
Jones via referee stoppage.
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