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you guys, have you not learned that power and size does not mean everything? fedor and brock have proven that quite a few times, shogun is a lethal striker and his bjj is very very good, he got up from machida nearly straight away.


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This is going to be a 50/50 split.

Shogun is as good as they get, but by the looks of it, so is Jones.
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Shogun. He'll put on a clinic standing up, Bones is can punch but, sticking someone on their feet with Shogun is a bad idea. Also, Shogun has a good guard game ... something that is far and few between at Jackson's (besides Condit).

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you guys, have you not learned that power and size does not mean everything? fedor and brock have proven that quite a few times, shogun is a lethal striker and his bjj is very very good, he got up from machida nearly straight away.
Power and Size actually means a lot. The entire reason Brock beat Randy and Mir was casue of power and size.

As for Fedor, Fedor is an absolute machine. There's a reason he's regarded by many as the greatest MMA fighter that's exsited in the sport so far.

Shogun looked like a little kid standing next to Jones, and he had shoes on. If Jones manages to get ahold of Shogun, or finds a pace that he is comfortable with (taking him down multiple times), Shogun might be in serious trouble, cause Jones will easily down Shogun. Shogun has been taken down in every single one of his UFC fights, against guys his size. Imagine how easy Jones will toss him on his head and control him.

Now, again, as my original post stated, I have Shogun winning this fight based on experience and the fact that he's just a plain out beast of a fighter. Size very well might impact this fight a lot, though, given the style matchup.
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The odd thing is, you are really going to see Shoguns BJJ here. Jon Jones is going to take him down with ease and the last time I saw this was with Renato Sobral.

No doubt though, in the stand up, Shogun is far far superior to Jones!
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Wow this is getting out of hand, where's the love for our LHW Champ? The way Jones handled Bader was impressive, but only because of Bader's size; he's not great and he was hyped up to make Jones look great, I know some people love Bader but I've never been impressed by him.

I see talk of 'athleticism' creeping in about Jones, this is not enough against Rua. The gap in skills and knowlegde is absolutely vast, and Rua destroyed Overeem twice - he was a bigger LHW than Jones is.

The holes in Jones' stand up are so evident, he's a learning striker. There's no way that Rua doesn't land some solid chin testers on him, and I'm curious to see how Jones deals with multiple hard leg kicks as well. On the ground is where Jones dominates, but again Rua will probably be doing things that Jones is yet to encounter.

I like watching Jones fight and this is a great opportunity for him but I feel that there's too big a difference in certain skills and experience, plus this may have increased his ego even more and that is a factor, and he may well get tooled a bit. Much more interesting fight than Evans though for sure, Jones' wrestling is much more powerful.

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Jones has such a massive reach advantage he could just jab the ever loving heck out of Rua.
LOL. Learn how a jab works. It's not just reach, it's techniqued Jones doesn't have it. If Jones take this to the ground he has an advantage, but standing up, it is a mismatch.
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well then i am on the shogun war wagon on my own despite him being the champ and proving time and time again why he is the best light heavyweight in the world


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well then i am on the shogun war wagon on my own despite him being the champ and proving time and time again why he is the best light heavyweight in the world
Nah, I'm here. I can't wait to see this forum collapse with Jones fans moaning.

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I'm on the Shogun war wagon too UFC!

He is legendary.

The only way he looses is if Jones takes him to the ground and smothers him. That is it.
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