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Old 02-08-2011, 06:15 PM   #31 (permalink)
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LHW is basically equivalent to MW now for talent depth. LW and WW are by far the most stacked divisions in the UFC. Look at Edgar's entire record he had 6 quality wins in the UFC before he got a title shot and beat Jim Miller right before coming to the UFC. Maynard also had 6 quality wins before his title shot. Kenny had 4 before his second title shot. BJ was an understandable exception to that because of his history of dominance within the weight class and the title having been stripped from Sherk. Diego is really the only guy who got fast tracked to a title shot.

Bones has 4(should be 5 the hamill dq was bullshit) quality wins at LHW in the UFC. That is enough to warrant a title shot.
I agree! LHW is really nothing these days compared to LW or WW.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Bones has 4(should be 5 the hamill dq was bullshit) quality wins at LHW in the UFC. That is enough to warrant a title shot.
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I agree! LHW is really nothing these days compared to LW or WW.
Well...it is something Bobby!
You exagerated there!

But i agree with you agreeing with Osmium!

LW and WW are the toughest and most staked divisions in the UFC atm.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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It's not just who Jones has beaten, it's how he's beaten them - domination. I personally think he would make half of those guys on the list look downright silly (Couture, Forrest, Franklin), and would soundly beat the others. I think he will beat Shogun, in fact.
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:35 PM   #34 (permalink)
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LHW is basically equivalent to MW now for talent depth. LW and WW are by far the most stacked divisions in the UFC. Look at Edgar's entire record he had 6 quality wins in the UFC before he got a title shot and beat Jim Miller right before coming to the UFC. Maynard also had 6 quality wins before his title shot. Kenny had 4 before his second title shot. BJ was an understandable exception to that because of his history of dominance within the weight class and the title having been stripped from Sherk. Diego is really the only guy who got fast tracked to a title shot.

Bones has 4(should be 5 the hamill dq was bullshit) quality wins at LHW in the UFC. That is enough to warrant a title shot.
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I agree! LHW is really nothing these days compared to LW or WW.
How is the WW division stacked when guys like dan hardy are gettin title shots just for beating marcus davis? how is that division stacked when the champion has had 9 rematches against 4 different fighters? how is the division stacked when all it has is 4 wrestlers (who use variation of l&p) at the top then everyone else is basically up/comers or journeymen?

Its strange how that love for gsp can skew ones common sense..Its easier to convince your self that the division is stacked that way it makes GSP look like a credible champ the truth is its just as sorry as the MW/HW divisions
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It's not just who Jones has beaten, it's how he's beaten them - domination. I personally think he would make half of those guys on the list look downright silly (Couture, Forrest, Franklin), and would soundly beat the others. I think he will beat Shogun, in fact.
This is the argument that separates okay fighters from legends..Take the gsp and hardy fight.Hardy was suppose to be a one dimensional prospect thats mediocre on the ground..GSP was suppose to be this wrestling gawd..With all that edge what could he do with it? he couldnt sub or g&p his opponent to a finish.The match goes to a friggin decision & hardy walked away from the fight without a scratch.. Look how anderson took out belfort or fuked around and still outclassed leites/maia, that whaty legends do they go in, seek and destroy..Jones is on his way but his run is about to come to a halt
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Yeah WW sucks. There's about 5 good fighters than a huge drop off.

Thiago Silva isn't even top 5 and a lot of people think he can beat Rampage.


That said, people are forgetting that Forrest essentially drew with Tito, beat Hector Ramirez(who?) and choked out an out of shape Shogun before he got his title shot, in between being stopped by Keith Jardine.

Jones actually beat some top 25 and top 10 fighters in Vera, Matyushenko and Bader.
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Hamill should get the title shot he has recently beaten Tito and before that Jones.
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Easy road??? Get the **** out of here.

How is Ryan Bader not a top 8 guy? Ryan Bader beat Nogueira, who has arguably THE sharpest ground game in MMA.

Not only did Bones out grapple Bader (who Nog couldn't submit), he dominated him and finished him off.

If theres any other LHW that deserves a title over Jones, please tell me...

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Easy road??? Get the **** out of here.

How is Ryan Bader not a top 8 guy? Ryan Bader beat Nogueira, who has arguably THE sharpest ground game in MMA.

Not only did Bones out grapple Bader (who Nog couldn't submit), he dominated him and finished him off.

If theres any other LHW that deserves a title over Jones, please tell me...
Can you even read?

bader top 8?? Why how?? cuz he beat Lil Nog?? Lol.. your funny. Trolling right?
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Well with this whole special case with Rashad Evans i think its obvious he got one of the easiest routs to a title shot, i mean thinking about all the wins Machida had to get to get there and the Talent was pretty intense.

But i think its justified seeing how each time they raise the bar JBJ doesn't only deliver but shows NO LIMIT.... Its scary seeing how he could just MAN HANDLE someone as strong of a wrestler as Bader, when really all people talk about JBJ is his crazy unorthodox striking.

This kid is limitless and will take the Title from Shogun at the age of 23 almost 24, and thats just amazing....

Its going be a close and amazing fight though, but if i still see no Limit and JBJ somehow just takes Shogun down and pounds on him round after round till Shogun gets subbed like Forrest did but without the SHogun beat down, then im going to just shit myself.
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doesnt matter if his road was easy or not(and it wasnt), if(when) he walks out the champion next month it will be totally justified.

Jones has made world class wrestlers look like children compare to him, what could shogun possible do to stop him? Am a big Shogun fan too, am actually wearing his T-Shirt right now lol, but Jones is a monster, he is the new breed and i just cant see any LHW beating him in the near future. People always forget that he has only been training MMA for 3 years, he isnt even close to hitting his peak yet, just think about that for moment.
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