Bisping V Lee Murray Who Wins? - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

View Poll Results: Who wins?
Michael Bisping 18 40.91%
Lee Murray 26 59.09%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:20 AM Thread Starter
Lightweight
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Philippines
Posts: 1,669
                     
Bisping V Lee Murray Who Wins?

Bisping of today. Murray before he did his heist.
MrObjective is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:23 AM
ROCKET FISTS
 
khoveraki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,743
                     
Murray would KO him on the streets then proceed to rob his house.

WAR CIGANO



sig credit to Limba

lobster train.
khoveraki is offline  
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:24 AM
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 81
                     
Lee Murray would have knocked Bisping spark out, Too fast and hits too hard.
nbf79 is offline  
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:27 AM
Flyweight
 
tkoshea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: London
Posts: 266
                     
before he did his heist.....but is it before he got stabbed several times??

It's hard to say, Lee Murray never really fought at the level Bisping has.

He does however have one noteable fight against Anderson Silva which he lost but gave a good account of himself in which is pretty impressive (and a submission win over current Bisping opponent Rivera), still he did lose though and who knows it could have been an off day for silva, this is cage rage silva not the beast he has grown into today also.

Bisping has also given good accounts of himself against Evans and Wanderlei.

I suppose no one knows just how good Murray was (or could have been) so you have to back Bisping, but its basically impossible to answer and will just be gut instinct or opinion dictating.
tkoshea is offline  
post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:31 AM
Heavyweight
 
edlavis88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: A pom living in Gold Coast, Australia
Posts: 3,856
                     
Murray had the potential to be really great. Shame he has several screws loose! Him vs Bisping would have been a close one if he were still around.

edlavis88 is offline  
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:54 AM
To the death George
 
DJ Syko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sunderland, UK
Posts: 2,306
                     
If Murray had stayed committed to MMA am pretty sure he would of fought for the title at least by now, he had huge potential imo. It would of been a great fight if it had happened and could of been the fight that kicked off MMA in this country, but i would go with Murray.

DJ Syko is offline  
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 08:18 AM
Welterweight
 
Hiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,103
                     
Come on, people claim Murray was better than he was. Yes he had half decent standup, lots of power and was tough as nails, but Anderson Silva took him down with ease. If Silva can do that with his non existent wrestling, the entire UFC MW division would be able to as well.

Bisping would have taken Murray down repeatedly. Bisping's takedowns aren't recognised much but he sets them up well. Against anyone who isn't a good wrestler/grappler he easily gets takedowns. He's going to do it to Rivera and he would have done it to Murray too.

Murray was no way near as good as some people think.
Hiro is offline  
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 08:31 AM
Flyweight
 
tkoshea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: London
Posts: 266
                     
Murray's hype is mostly born off the incident with Tito (because Tito was the champion and UFC poster boy at the time)

I agree his hype is built up a lot more than he actually ever achieved in the cage.

He has one notable victory on his CV against Rivera (who can't be considered top competition) and a loss to Silva in which he was not knock out or totally outclassed.

Other than that he is far more infamous than he is famous, all the key moments that relate to him are scandles. Stabbed outside China Whites, Fight in alley with Tito and finally caught robbing money and jailed in Morocco.

The bottom line is Bisping has had a great deal more sustain actual success and has been performing on the top level where as Murray never really transcended the lower level Cage Rage status (ok he had a fight in the UFC but that was on the back of his Tito fame more than actual achievement)

So I say you have to give Bisping the edge, we don't really know how good Murray was or could have been because he never had enough fights against top competition to prove his worth.
tkoshea is offline  
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 09:49 AM
Lightweight
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,873
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiro View Post
Come on, people claim Murray was better than he was. Yes he had half decent standup, lots of power and was tough as nails, but Anderson Silva took him down with ease. If Silva can do that with his non existent wrestling, the entire UFC MW division would be able to as well.

Bisping would have taken Murray down repeatedly. Bisping's takedowns aren't recognised much but he sets them up well. Against anyone who isn't a good wrestler/grappler he easily gets takedowns. He's going to do it to Rivera and he would have done it to Murray too.

Murray was no way near as good as some people think.

Thank you, glad someone said it. Murray had no significant grappling, he would have been a mid tier fighter at best. Bisping would murder him at Murray's best.
Drogo is offline  
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 11:55 AM
Amateur
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 134
                     
Dont know how its possible to tell that Murray " would have been mid tier ". The sport evolves as do the fighters with different camps, techniques and such If i remember the Early Bisping hardley did takedowns at all and was just a pure striker. But as this is the Bisping of today vs The before heist Murray would have to go with Bisping.
m0nkey is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome