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He said on a mental level, and I tend to agree. I don't think you could find another fighter on the planet as cerebral as Jones.
I can't even argue with you guys because it is obvious you don't understand exactly how complex Bruce Lee was as an individual.This has nothing to do with me being a Jon Jones "doubter", I love the guy. However, I do not see Jon Jones reading and owning a library of books, I do not see him with thousands and thousands of pages of personal writings and teachings. I do not see Jones 30yrs ahead of his time.

Bruce Lee learned MMA before MMA existed, and he did so much more people. Jones is a super exciting fighter and can fight anyone in the world right now and have a good chance of winning, but he is not Bruce Lee, (mentally or any other way), or like him, and he himself would likely tell you the same thing.

Please watch this, a very good small glimpse at a fraction of who he was, and what he had to go through in that era.

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I can't even argue with you guys because it is obvious you don't understand exactly how complex Bruce Lee was as an individual.This has nothing to do with me being a Jon Jones "doubter", I love the guy. However, I do not see Jon Jones reading and owning a library of books, I do not see him with thousands and thousands of pages of personal writings and teachings. I do not see Jones 30yrs ahead of his time.

Bruce Lee learned MMA before MMA existed, and he did so much more people. Jones is a super exciting fighter and can fight anyone in the world right now and have a good chance of winning, but he is not Bruce Lee, (mentally or any other way), or like him, and he himself would likely tell you the same thing.

Please watch this, a very good small glimpse at a fraction of who he was, and what he had to go through in that era.


You cant compare todays fighters with someone like Bruce Lee because fighters probably wouldn't be what they are today without Bruce Lee.

He single handedly changed the way people looked at fighting for a whole generation... And that Generation affected all of us, including JBJ

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I can't even argue with you guys because it is obvious you don't understand exactly how complex Bruce Lee was as an individual.This has nothing to do with me being a Jon Jones "doubter", I love the guy. However, I do not see Jon Jones reading and owning a library of books, I do not see him with thousands and thousands of pages of personal writings and teachings. I do not see Jones 30yrs ahead of his time.

Bruce Lee learned MMA before MMA existed, and he did so much more people. Jones is a super exciting fighter and can fight anyone in the world right now and have a good chance of winning, but he is not Bruce Lee, (mentally or any other way), or like him, and he himself would likely tell you the same thing.

Please watch this, a very good small glimpse at a fraction of who he was, and what he had to go through in that era.

You do realize we are talking in future tense, not present tense.


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You do realize we are talking in future tense, not present tense.
Yes. There can only be one~

This is probably something you and I would need to sit down and shoot the shit over in person, I get the feeling you are mistaking that "it" factor that creates stars...(that unexplained charisma that Jones, Bruce, and many other stars have), with what it would truly mean to have a mentality, intellectual tool box... a personality if you will, of Bruce Lee.
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I can't even argue with you guys because it is obvious you don't understand exactly how complex Bruce Lee was as an individual.This has nothing to do with me being a Jon Jones "doubter", I love the guy. However, I do not see Jon Jones reading and owning a library of books, I do not see him with thousands and thousands of pages of personal writings and teachings. I do not see Jones 30yrs ahead of his time.

Bruce Lee learned MMA before MMA existed, and he did so much more people. Jones is a super exciting fighter and can fight anyone in the world right now and have a good chance of winning, but he is not Bruce Lee, (mentally or any other way), or like him, and he himself would likely tell you the same thing.

Please watch this, a very good small glimpse at a fraction of who he was, and what he had to go through in that era.

I get what you mean and I don't think Jones will ever be as great as Lee, I don't think that's really possible. People with his level of intelligence usually turn toward science or politics and law. Bruce was a genius and there's no disputing that. The man is one of my heroes, I have "Be water, my friend" painted on my gym wall. I'm saying that Jones is comparable in the way he breaks down martial arts, goes in depth into the specific motions, deconstructs styles to find their weak points etc. I'm saying he's comparable to him, not better than or even his equal, in that way. Me saying "You couldn't find another fighter..." is in reference to the present, not the past. There are very few fighters who look at martial arts the same way Bruce did left, Jones is one of the few following in his footsteps in that regard.
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I get what you mean and I don't think Jones will ever be as great as Lee, I don't think that's really possible. People with his level of intelligence usually turn toward science or politics and law. Bruce was a genius and there's no disputing that. The man is one of my heroes, I have "Be water, my friend" painted on my gym wall. I'm saying that Jones is comparable in the way he breaks down martial arts, goes in depth into the specific motions, deconstructs styles to find their weak points etc. I'm saying he's comparable to him, not better than or even his equal, in that way. Me saying "You couldn't find another fighter..." is in reference to the present, not the past. There are very few fighters who look at martial arts the same way Bruce did left, Jones is one of the few following in his footsteps in that regard.
Cheers man, I honestly never made the comparison in that context, but now that you guys have, I will def. be paying more attention to his interviews.
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Rua should be looking at Jones legs then, because with the leg size difference, Rua should be able to snap those little bones of Jones. Unfortunately, you should never judge a book by its cover!
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He said on a mental level, and I tend to agree. I don't think you could find another fighter on the planet as cerebral as Jones.
But at this point it is all talk. It is pretty easy to sit there and say "i'm not affected by big name fighters" when Jones hasn't faced a single big name fighter.

Does he have a great attitude? yes.

But at this point that is all he has, other than a giant hype train. to say he is more cerebral than other fighters is giving him far too much credit regardless of what he goes on to accomplish in the future. At the moment he hasn't been placed in a postion where he could mentally crack.

This is just like the Overeem situation; Bones is saying all the right things and doing all the right things but he has far from proven himself. On that note, it is getting harder to do so. The once stacked lhw division has all but fallen apart in terms of being the deepest division around.


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