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Old 02-25-2011, 05:10 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, but you're starting to really come off as a typical UK Sherdogger who will back any UK fighter regardless of the evidence presented. Your arguement that Dan Henderson was out of line for calling Bisping a 'little bitch' and a 'douchebag'either means that you didn't watch the Ultimate Fighter, or you're incredibly biased. Or both. I'm not a Bisping fan, but I don't villainize him the way most people on the internet do. The main issue I have with Bisping is his tendency to be a hypocrite and his immature overreactions to the comments of others. See after the Hamill fight. Instead of congratulating Hamill and admitting it was a close fight, he immediately bitches about people booing and insults Matt. He often sounds like the spoiled little kid who got his candy taken from him.

To give you a recap in short of the Ultimate Fighter, Bisping acted the same way the whole time. Constantly whining for not getting his way, making anti-American comments on several occasions (not a good way to acquaint yourself with US fans). When Bisping was a contestant, I was one of the few who actually agreed with him in principle on Matt Hamill. I thought that Hamill acted like a bit of a self-righteous prick and seemed to use the fact that he's deaf against people. Bisping called him out on it, and though I think that he may have gone a bit too far, I thought it was good that someone wasn't willing to take his garbage. After he fought Hamill, I saw his true colors.

I can understand thinking he gets a bit more crap than deserved...But to think that he's not at fault in most of these situations that have come up with Hendo, Wanderlei, Hamill, and Sonnen is laughable.
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:31 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Mckeever,

I'm sorry, but you're starting to really come off as a typical UK Sherdogger who will back any UK fighter regardless of the evidence presented. Your arguement that Dan Henderson was out of line for calling Bisping a 'little bitch' and a 'douchebag'either means that you didn't watch the Ultimate Fighter, or you're incredibly biased. Or both. I'm not a Bisping fan, but I don't villainize him the way most people on the internet do. The main issue I have with Bisping is his tendency to be a hypocrite and his immature overreactions to the comments of others. See after the Hamill fight. Instead of congratulating Hamill and admitting it was a close fight, he immediately bitches about people booing and insults Matt. He often sounds like the spoiled little kid who got his candy taken from him.

To give you a recap in short of the Ultimate Fighter, Bisping acted the same way the whole time. Constantly whining for not getting his way, making anti-American comments on several occasions (not a good way to acquaint yourself with US fans). When Bisping was a contestant, I was one of the few who actually agreed with him in principle on Matt Hamill. I thought that Hamill acted like a bit of a self-righteous prick and seemed to use the fact that he's deaf against people. Bisping called him out on it, and though I think that he may have gone a bit too far, I thought it was good that someone wasn't willing to take his garbage. After he fought Hamill, I saw his true colors.

I can understand thinking he gets a bit more crap than deserved...But to think that he's not at fault in most of these situations that have come up with Hendo, Wanderlei, Hamill, and Sonnen is laughable.
Sorry but I just didnt see this whining and bitching throughout the season of TUF, really I didnt.

Hendo changed the training times around to suit his team behind Bispings back. Bisping confronted Henderson about it and Hendo, as per just stood there as quiet as a church mouse. Is this what you mean by Bisping bitching? I dont consider that bitching. I consider it calling Henderson out on some thing he was wrong to do.

Then there was the thing with Demarcus, silly yes, but he apologised. What else was there, where was this bitching? I remember him getting annoyed after one of his losses, but **** me, which coach doesnt get annoyed some times when there team loses?!!

And he was winding the Americans up, its called banter, why take that seriously? He was obviously joking. If Hendo started cracking jokes about the british and harry potter and their bad teeth, i'd laugh my ass off, it would give Hendo at least a bit of personality, he's about as interesting as a ping pong ball.

I have criticised Bisping before on stuff, but I did not see this constant bitching throughout the entire series you saw. I saw Bisping having a laugh with his team mates, coaching quite well and making a few american jokes. Whats the big deal?
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:34 PM   #53 (permalink)
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he was kind of an asshole in the season where he was a contestant rather than a coach...
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Bisping acted like a dick a couple of times on the season he coached and every time he went to far he appologised to the person involved and/or the camera, people seem to edit that out of their memory.

As for when he was a contestant, pretty much everyone on that season was an arsehole at some point. Even Hamill who seems the nicest guy managed to piss people off.
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:30 PM   #55 (permalink)
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And he was winding the Americans up, its called banter, why take that seriously? He was obviously joking. If Hendo started cracking jokes about the british and harry potter and their bad teeth, i'd laugh my ass off, it would give Hendo at least a bit of personality, he's about as interesting as a ping pong ball.

I have criticised Bisping before on stuff, but I did not see this constant bitching throughout the entire series you saw. I saw Bisping having a laugh with his team mates, coaching quite well and making a few american jokes. Whats the big deal?
I'm not a particularly patriotic person. I could care less if Bisping made a few cracks about America, some of them are actually pretty hilarious, but that's not why I dislike him. But, when the majority of the audience watching the Ultimate Fighter is the 18-34 demographic of rowdy, patriotic American males, it's a pretty self-explanatory equation. For Bisping to not understand why he's not a popular fighter after doing that on national TV is a little absurd for someone who spends a relative ammount of time infront of the camera. He should have known that that's what was going to happen, and for him to "Huh? What?" about it is pretty hypocritical since he called out Matt Hamill on playing the "Huh? What?" card while he was a contestant.

He needs to learn to stick to what he says is all.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:09 PM   #56 (permalink)
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You dont include how Mike was reacting to Dan Henderson and Wanderlei Silva. He didnt just come out and say those things for nothing. Hendo started calling Bisping a douche bag out of no where and then Bisping reacted. Wanderlei silva the exact same thing. Wandy initiated the shit talking and when asked why Wand didnt like Bisping he just replied with, every body dont like him hehe.

You cant just tell one half of the story.

Or how about these quotes you miss out:

“I have got the greatest respect for Wanderlei Silva,” Bisping stated in a recent video blog. “Early on in my career I used to watch a lot of [him] back in PRIDE. He has always been one of my favorite fighters and I have got nothing but respect for the guy so to be fighting a legend like Wanderlei Silva for me is a great honor.”

“He says he is not scared of me – of course he is not scared of me, he has fought some of the biggest names in the world but make no mistake, I am not scared of him either,” Bisping said. “I think it’s a very winnable fight for me. I am going to go out there and give it my best and I plan on winning in Australia.”

This was before Wand started talking shit, most likely to just hype up the fight. Bisping retaliated.
Are you serious? Bisping started shit with Hendo first. He even says in that video that he thinks he did enough to piss him off over the last few months...

And he and his camp DID make fun of Wanderlei first. It's great to talk about how much you respect a guy, but if you then immediately make fun of his accent, do you actually respect the guy?

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Yes, Henderson unprovoked called Bisping a douche and "a little bitch". Bisping said nothing to Henderson and did nothing to provoke such a reaction. He was arguing with Hendo about the training times which henderson decided to reschedule to suit his own team. Bisping stuck up for his team and adressed Henderson with it, Mike was in the right and Dan was in the wrong, but no, Bisping was acting like a little bitch......
It was always part of the show that the training rotation could switch.

Here's a clip on the TUF 9 site: Wake-up call

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Exercise his option. That means he had the right. Bisping QQ'd about it to the wrong person. How was Bisping in the right? The fact that you think Hendo was in the wrong shows a very high level of bias, imo.

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Bisping acted like a dick a couple of times on the season he coached and every time he went to far he appologised to the person involved and/or the camera, people seem to edit that out of their memory.
It's good to apologize after you screw up. But it's even better to stop acting like an ass, and then you no longer need to keep apologizing.
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Stupid comments like he really beat Wandy are reason enough to hate Mike's stupid a**.
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