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View Poll Results: Who's the P4P best fighter from the US.
Cain 17 26.98%
Fitch 10 15.87%
Shields 6 9.52%
Edgar 16 25.40%
Maynard 0 0%
Penn 14 22.22%
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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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p4p best american fighter? and best p4p per country

While some countries have a clear P4P best mma fighter like Brazil (Silva), Canada (GSP) Netherlands (Reem), Australia (Sotiropoulos), Denmark (Kampmann), South Korea (Stun Gun) or Russia (Fedor).

Other countries are certainly up for grabs like Japan where you can consider guys like Shinya Aoki, Yushin Okami and Hatsu Hioki and England who has Bisping and Daley in pretty good standing.

But for me it has always been hard to determine who the best US fighter is, a while ago Penn had a good argument when he steam rolled his LW competition in Stevenson, Sherk, Sanchez and Florian, but after 2 consecutive losses against Frankie Edgar it's the New Jersey kid the one with a bigger argument and there's also Gray Maynard who has also built a pretty good resume.

A win over longtime WW Contender Jon Fitch would certainly put Penn back on the discusion but Fitch credentials are good enough to make him a candidate for best US fighter.

Jake Shields could also make a bid here, he holds solid wins over both WW and MW fighters and has build a solid streak, if he can topple GSP he certainly becomes number 1 not only in america but pretty much worldwide with Anderson being his only competition.

And last but not least you just can't leave out UFC HW Champion Cain Velasquez, though he does seem to consider himself Mexican....oh well.

So at this point in time, who do you consider the best P4P fighter?

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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:16 PM
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who cares who the #1 p4p american fighter is...not like it means anything.
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Reem is technically English... please let us have him!

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hard to say P4P, no real way to compare somebody like Cain to somebody like Frankie. If they were the same weight, who would be faster?? who would be stronger?? Who would have more handspeed etc etc etc?? cant do it.

Ill just go by what ive seen of the fighters on that list from their entire career.

Cain Velasquez has shown no major weakness' and an abundance of skill in every area of MMA, along with insane cardio, a top notch mental game and great gameplans and a will to stick with the game plan. Top it off with the fact he has never lost a round, much less a fight and has dominated two top 5 fighters in a row with a very high finishing ratio. I gotta go with Cain being the most impressive fighter on that list and the most likely to continue with the impressive run he is on.

The only thing that scares me is the thing nobody talks about. Torn rotator cuff injuries are often career altering or even ending in boxing or baseball. You often lose speed and power in the arm you had the surgery on, anywhere from 10% tp 80%, some guys need help for the rest of their lives if they aggravate it again.

So my backup pick is Frankie Edgar cuz ppl been sleeping on him so long, still laud BJ has a top p4p and potential WW champ when he soundly beat him and made it look easy and just held his own (i thought he won) vs Maynard after taking a devastating beating in the 1st round that not many fighter could gut out.
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Siver for Germany. That wasnt hard at all :P

Cain is mexican at least they hyped him as one^^
Nah he is American, he was born there.
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post #6 of 27 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 06:34 PM
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I would go with Cain at the moment. If Fitch wins against Penn and wins the title against GSP then I might move him ahead.

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Sorry I cant pick from that list. maybe America doesn't have any true top P4P fighter
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I'd have to go with Maynard or Fitch, more so Maynard since he hasn't even lost once yet.
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Fitch, as he as whooped every american and lost to a canadian p4p, cain has yet to be tested if he can beat junior then he would be p4p. But as of right now fitch 21-1 in his last 22 fights is impressive. However he is still boring as hell, when i have tourble fall a sleep at night i watch a jon fitch fight.
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JBJ in a few more years lol

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