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post #11 of 31 (permalink) Old 02-10-2007, 08:01 AM
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Randy moved down from HW to LHW because he struggled against larger guys, tim is bigger than anyone he has been in the ring with before. It follows that randy will find it hard against tim. I'm not say tim will win or that i want him to win but randy will have to do somethink special in this fight to win.
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Randy moved down from HW to LHW because he struggled against larger guys, tim is bigger than anyone he has been in the ring with before. It follows that randy will find it hard against tim. I'm not say tim will win or that i want him to win but randy will have to do somethink special in this fight to win.

You should check his record one more time before you say he had trouble with bigger guys so he moved down lol
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You should check his words because thats what he said.

He lost to Josh Barnett and then he lost to Ricco Rodriguez. Thats two back to back loses. Around this time Tim Sylvia and Gan McGee came on the scene and Randy felt he just couldn't compete with those giants anymore.



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You should check his words because thats what he said.

He lost to Josh Barnett and then he lost to Ricco Rodriguez. Thats two back to back loses. Around this time Tim Sylvia and Gan McGee came on the scene and Randy felt he just couldn't compete with those giants anymore.



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Oh did HE. Well post a link to that quote. lol
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I dont see tim sylvia beating randy, they brought him in for two reasons.

1. to dethrone sylvia which gives cc some contenders to fight before he gets a title shot

2. to add to the hw div

I just cannot picture sylvia beating randy up.

I can picture randy beating the shit out of tim tho.
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If Tim wins it's just like "Ok, you just beat up an old man, how does it feel?". But if Randy wins, it's gonna be like the second coming of christ up in this motherfuker! With that momentum behind him, and his years upon years upon years of Grecco he might just clean out the division, including CroCop! Has Tim or CroCop ever fought a wrestler of Randy's caliber? Nope.But what about Monson? Nope. What about Randleman? Nope. Old or not, the guy can still wrestle, thats like riding a bike for him, as long as he can avoid the bigshot and get that takedown he's gold. Do you really think he signed a four fight deal so he could go on a huge losing streak? Hell to the no. War Randy!

I'm gonna laugh when he wins, and everyone becomes Randy's biggest fan.
LOL. Cro Cop has beaten Josh Barnett, who is an amazing wrestler.....3 times. He destroyed Mark Coleman. And yes, hes also beaten Kevin Randleman the 2nd time. Im sure there are other wrestlers im forgetting, if anyone feels like they want to add to this feel free.
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LOL. Cro Cop has beaten Josh Barnett, who is an amazing wrestler.....3 times. He destroyed Mark Coleman. And yes, hes also beaten Kevin Randleman the 2nd time. Im sure there are other wrestlers im forgetting, if anyone feels like they want to add to this feel free.

WTF lmao. This is what I was thinking.
Cro Cop has fought ALL kinds of wrestlers and done fine.
Sure he lost to Fedor but he went the distance, Fedor is a Sambo IMS.
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its like when tyson fought lewis....in tysons prime hed of eatten him alive...

Actually Tyson lost to Lewis as an amature...then early on in his reign as heavyweight champion Tyson was supposed to have a mandatory fight with Lewis (boxing instituted mandatory fights based on contender status to try to eliminate "paper champions" which are guys who fight only bums in an attempt to hold on to the title for as long as possible) and Tyson's handlers paid Lewis 4 million dollars to step aside and not fight. It made a lot of people lose massive respect for Lewis and ask are you in it to be the champion, the best or are you in it for the money? Where's your heart? Oddly enough it didn't seem to bother Tyson fans and boxing didn't really talk about it all that much. Why would they, Tyson knocking out bums in 30 seconds was making boxing exciting again an drawing huge numbers of new fans, record pay per-views, etc. I was young, stupid caught up in the hype and I would have battled to the death with anyone who claimed that Tyson wasn't the best there ever was. I was wrong...I was foolish. I was just like the legions of UFC fans who believe with all their might that fighters like Rich Franklin, Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell are the best of the best.
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Well MORON, a large part of the reason he lost to chuck was because Randy is a natural HW. He belongs on the HW division and dropping so much weight to fight at 205 took a toll on his performance.

I thought he was "The Natural" though? Now if randy somehow beats Tim, what the hell is he gunna do? Beat Cro Cop bahahahahahahha, yea ok sure thats gunna happen. I could see him somehow beating tim, but the odds are heavily against him. He would barely be able to beat arlovski aswell. Pretty much, for randy to be coming back and already to be alowwed a the top of the totem poll, he is gunna have some hardcore competition. If he goes out with one win id be surprised.

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If Randy stands more chance a HW then LHW then why did he drop down in weight?
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