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Old 02-27-2011, 09:50 AM   #71 (permalink)
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For fecks sake.... I like the way Bisping fights. Why does he have to do this shit over and over?

Hes by far the most juvenile MMA fighter I can think of... and in the MMA world, that's saying something.

Still, I do like the way he fights. Its a shame hes a knob, but I'm a fight fan before anything else, and so will continue to watch his fights whilst somehow ignoring all the other turd shaped objects that keep falling out of his gob.

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Old 02-27-2011, 09:57 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Some ridiculously bias views on this forums...

If roles were reversed no one would be here saying rivera is a scumbag, they'd be saying he was a legend for kicking Bisping's ass and then showing him no respect after the fight. Just like everyone did when Dan Handerson cracked Bisping in the face when he was clearly already out.

Bisping should have shown control and either done nothing, or gone up to rivera and shook his hand like a champion would have done.

The fact he didn't has just given people who already hated him, more reason to grind their axe.

Get over it.
This is the nature of sport.

Fans have their favourites and there are golden boys and heels.

Bisping even said himself he prefers to be booed and hated than given the golfers clap for someone not deemed relevant.

He plays up to it at times, I'm sure he'd rather be loved (he says so himself) but he is clearly not opposed to playing the heel and is comfortable enough being booed.

Because he has developed into something of a hate figure (for reasons I explained in a previous post such as the Hamil fight and his second stint on TUF) he is in the position where anything he does will be scrutinised more than other fighters, a comment he makes will be called classless while another fighter may get a pass for gamesmanship.

The illegal knee was wrong and the spitting and post fight smack talk was in bad taste, but yes because it was bisping it was focused on more than if a golden boy had done the same things.

At the end of the day it is not really important and in truth controllable incidents like this a kind of good for the sport (they keep peoples interest high)

This is combat sport, anyone who has ever been in a ring knows the amount of adrenaline pumping through your veins its hard to contain yourself and obvious Bisping was very fired up for this fight.

I really don't think too much needs to be made of any of this, it was not really a fight worth making and hopefully next time Bisping will be put in with an opponent worth fighting (for someone with ambitions of getting in the title mix)
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:59 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Yeah Bisping is definitely in the mix now, Rivera had nothing for him.

On the illegal knee, oh well, he could have been disqualified but was not and the fight continued. On Bisping's antics, oh well, don't take anything that happens in the cage to heart, it's all heat-of-the-moment adrenallin-fuelled reaction.

And I say REACTION because Bisping may have acted wrongly last night, but Rivera has been an absolute twat completely unprovoked, ever since he knew he was fighting Bisping. Rivera is 10x the douchebag Bisping is, and quite thick as well because he picked on a better fighter, and got his ass kicked.

If roles were reversed, many on this forum would worship Rivera for kneeing Mike and would claim it's deserved. Bisping can't win in the minds of most fans so why should he bother to try and be what's considered likeable?

I'm not defending Bisping's actions it was a callous move, but some people on here need to try to keep things in context and relate to the people they're talking about.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:59 AM   #74 (permalink)
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He said in the post fight presser was that he was waiting for Rivera to get up but was too eager. As much as you all hate the guy think about it for a second and I think I believe him. He held that Thai clinch for a good few seconds and Rivera was getting up and I think Bisping just fired too early. He was waiting and waiting and as Rivera was getting up he realised what Bisping was doing and just held it.

As for his after fight antics he was fired up and hurt 'emotionally' lol as he claimed. Yeah he acted like a dick but what can you, do hes not scum though. He's a british fighter who you dislike greatly
Spot on mate, this is exactly what i was gonna say. In the original post it was mentioned that it was nothing personal.. wtf?? singing over and over that Michael Bisping is a dick isnt personal? You must be having a laugh fella.

Bisping was deducted a point, that was his punishment, imo it made that a 9-9 round anyway. He got on with it, and then went about detroying Rivera. I mean come on man, if you are gonna talk smack then at least come and back it up with a half decent performance. Rivera made himself look like the prick in the end. Kinda funny that.

Having said that, the way Bisping then went and spat at the corner was bloody disgusting, there is no place for that in mma, regardless of how high emotions were running.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:00 AM   #75 (permalink)
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For fecks sake.... I like the way Bisping fights. Why does he have to do this shit over and over?

Hes by far the most juvenile MMA fighter I can think of... and in the MMA world, that's saying something.

Still, I do like the way he fights. Its a shame hes a knob, but I'm a fight fan before anything else, and so will continue to watch his fights whilst somehow ignoring all the other turd shaped objects that keep falling out of his gob.

* sigh *
Agree 100%, he lets himself down.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:08 AM   #76 (permalink)
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don't take anything that happens in the cage to heart, it's all heat-of-the-moment adrenallin-fuelled reaction.

That's true (I said so myself in my last post) but where do you draw the line?

Paul Daley probably never would have sucker punched Koscheck if it wasn't for adrenaline, but would you argue Dana was wrong to cut him?

Bisping is well versed at dealing with such rushes of adrenaline, after he has had several pro fights and fought infront of large crowds on big events many times now (he should be used to it)

There is no excuse for his actions, but also nothing that bad actually happened so there is no need for everyone to be blowing it out of proportion.

A point was deducted for the knee and the fight proceeded. He spat and he talked abit of smack, ok it was classless but in reality shit happens and nothing THAT bad happened.

In my opinion it's a case of MOVE ON NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

If your a bisping fan be happy with the win, if you hate bisping wait for his next fight and cheer on the other guy.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:11 AM   #77 (permalink)
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I was really starting to warm up to Bisping. He fought his heart out against Silva and said and did all the right things before and after.

For me, this fight has shown his true colors and level of professionalism.

For now,... he holds a place in my heart once reserved for heroes like Tank Abbot and Chris "the spritzer" Leban.

He's a good fighter, I can't wait to see him meet a better one.
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I saw it.

ayyyy thats pretty conclusive! Shame Bisping had that fight all day long illegal knee or no illegal knee, why he feels he has to do shit like that is beyond me!

I really have a hard time deciding which one is the real Bisping, sometimes he is a massive arrogant douche sometimes he is very respectful humble guy! Like he has split personality!
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That's true (I said so myself in my last post) but where do you draw the line?
I don't, it's up to the referees and doctors if a fight needs to be stopped and a fighter needs to be disqualified. I'm just watching a sport, illegal things will happen and I can't control how it affects the result. The fight was allowed to continue and Bisping was winning anyway, not really worth all the drama is it?

End of the day, there are footballers being paid 80 grand a week to train when they feel like it, turn up to a match, run about for 10 minutes, fall over when someone gets within 10 feet of them, then go home to party some more and **** a few more women in a few more hotels.

At least in MMA, when someone does something wrong it's generally because something has hit a nerve and they are emotionally attached to the sport, right or wrong they are doing it with heart.
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I don't, it's up to the referees and doctors if a fight needs to be stopped and a fighter needs to be disqualified. I'm just watching a sport, illegal things will happen and I can't control how it affects the result. The fight was allowed to continue and Bisping was winning anyway, not really worth all the drama is it?

End of the day, there are footballers being paid 80 grand a week to train when they feel like it, turn up to a match, run about for 10 minutes, fall over when someone gets within 10 feet of them, then go home to party some more and **** a few more women in a few more hotels.

At least in MMA, when someone does something wrong it's generally because something has hit a nerve and they are emotionally attached to the sport, right or wrong they are doing it with heart.
When I say where do you draw the line, I meant where should the line be drawn not where do you personally draw the line.

No footballer is paid to train for 10mins and fall over in matches while raping people, that's a pointless analogy.

The post fight reactions by Bisping last night, Daley (against Koscheck) and Brock (against Mir) are all wrong regardless of what other sportsmen are paid and do it was wrong. If you really want to compare them to Football then you should look at incidents like Zidane's headbutt during the world cup final and El Haj Diouf and his spitting incidents.

All of these can be chalked up to adrinaline in the heat of the moment also, doesn't mean you can excuse them, they are all wrong. YOu just have to hope they are infrequent and when they do happen they get punished accordingly, which for my money they generally are.

Semtex was cut because what he did was completely out of line, but Bisping and brock were not because what happened with them were not actually that significant in the grand scheme of things (just unsportsman like and classless)

The knee, maybe one point is not enough of a deduction, but that is how the laws dictate it should go down and Rivera was able to continue so everything played out how it should still...but Bisping was silly to risk a DQ in a fight he was clearly in control of, that being said he actually fought a pretty good fight all in all and was well worth the win.

I personally would have liked to see him conduct himself with a little more class and just shake hands at the end safe in the knowledge he had said all that needed to be said with his fists, but as I have said before the sport needs this type of action from time to time to increase interest (who would have even considered watching the Haye/Harrison boxing match recently if they hadn't been running their mouths for weeks prior?)
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