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View Poll Results: Your Fitch vs Penn Score

10-9 P, 10-9 P, 10-8 F, 28-28 Draw 30 29.70%
10-9 P, 10-10 D, 10-9 F, 28-28 Draw 7 6.93%
10-9 P, 10-9 P, 10-9 F, 29-28 Penn. 20 19.80%
10-9 P, 10-10 D, 10-8 F, 29-28 Fitch 10 9.90%
10-9 P, 10-9 F, 10-9 F, 29-28 Fitch 18 17.82%
10-9 P, 10-9 F, 10-8 F, 29-27 Fitch 14 13.86%
Some other combination 2 1.98%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-28-2011, 05:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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10-9 Penn
10-9 Fitch
10-9 (close to a 10-8) Fitch
Comparing how Penn won rd 1 and how Fitch won rd 3 - it's a no contest. Fitch absolutely dominated Penn in the 3rd. Penn did nothing.

29-28 Fitch.
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:33 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Actually the majority feel Fitch won.. not sure how many more votes came in after this but as it stands its 21 Draw, 25 Fitch.
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:44 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well, if you want to get technical, 21 peoople think it's a draw, 8 people think Penn won, so a total 29 people are either for the draw, or think Fitch lost.

25 people think Fitch won by differrent ways.

That's not really how poll votes are done anyways, though, usually it's the spot with the highest votes that wins (18 to 11 in this case), but if you want to go by totals, there are more people who agree with the draw or think Penn won than there are who think Fitch won.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:24 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I watched it live then went home and watched it twice, every time i would give it 10-9 penn, 10-9 penn, 10-8 fitch. So i say the judges got it right. One of the problems is ppl remember the final round more than the first two because its a lasting impression thing. I say it was the correct decision.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:36 PM   #35 (permalink)
 
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First off I just want to have a quick shout out to the haters. And I'm gonna let you finish hatin', but I just want you to know that Fitch beat Penn's ass so hard he'll feel it FOR ALL TIME.
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10-9 Penn, 10-9 Fitch, 10-8 Fitch (he out struck him by well over 100 strikes and that's regardless of what FM says. Not to mention Penn did jack shit the whole time, hardly even a conceivable defense).

Third, want to point out to the haters that the poll stands 8 votes for Fitch WINNING. 4 votes for a draw and 2 sublimely delusional votes for Penn winning. Haters gonna hate.
Hey, don't hate Penn for giving your boy a ten minute wrestling tutorial on how to properly take somebody down. Round 3 obviously showed Fitch is a fast learner though. To me this was not controversial in the slightest bit. First and second round were both clearly 10-9 in Penn's favor, debating them as anything else is really just plain silly. Same with round 3 which was as clear a 10-8 as we have seen.
I have never seen a fight were I was so sure it was a draw the only surprise I had was that one judge could possibly see it any other way.

I can not believe that so many people think Fitch won round 2 and only got a 10-9 third, that boggles my mind.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
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wow, i just rewatched round 2 alone and there's no way Penn won it, Fitch got a takedown and landed a few not so significant strikes, then it got turned into a clinchfest where both scored strikes but Fitch was the one pressing Penn against the fence for most of the time, BJ then evens out with a takedown and about 25 seconds of back control and no significant strikes, Fitch gets 1:10 of Top Control from BJ's guard landing good strikes.

I had originally scored this as a draw.

all in all:


Fitch gets one takedown with about 40 seconds of top control and no significant strikes before BJ works back into his feet.

BJ hits a hard elbow from the clinch that busts Fitch ope along with some other good strikes

Fitch controls most of the clinch fight and lands some good strikes too.

BJ gets one takedown with 20 seconds of top control and no significant strikes from guard before taking the back.

BJ gets back control for 25 seconds with no significant strikes before Fitch gets into his guard.

Fitch reverses position and gets 70 seconds of top control with significant strikes before BJ gets back into his feet.

It looks pretty even but i'm leaning more towards 10-9 Fitch because of the volume of strikes landed and my realization that the control part was a lot more even than i thought.

i think my original scoring of the round was influenced by BJ's Strong First.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:35 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I see it the same

10-9 for the first two rounds for Penn and 10-8 for Fitch on the last round

but when it's a draw or some controversial decision, I try to imagine the outcome if there were another round.

So I kinda feel like Penn at the end of the fight, I see it as a loss for Penn and he surely does live it this way too.

is there no way they could do a sudden victory like they do in TUF ? that would have solved the problem and gave the win for Fitch.

I really don't see BJ performing nearly as good in WW than he does at LW, and I don't see either Penn or Fitch (or Shields for that matter) standing a chance against GSP
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wow, i just rewatched round 2 alone and there's no way Penn won it, Fitch got a takedown and landed a few not so significant strikes, then it got turned into a clinchfest where both scored strikes but Fitch was the one pressing Penn against the fence for most of the time, BJ then evens out with a takedown and about 25 seconds of back control and no significant strikes, Fitch gets 1:10 of Top Control from BJ's guard landing good strikes.

I had originally scored this as a draw.

all in all:


Fitch gets one takedown with about 40 seconds of top control and no significant strikes before BJ works back into his feet.

BJ hits a hard elbow from the clinch that busts Fitch ope along with some other good strikes

Fitch controls most of the clinch fight and lands some good strikes too.

BJ gets one takedown with 20 seconds of top control and no significant strikes from guard before taking the back.

BJ gets back control for 25 seconds with no significant strikes before Fitch gets into his guard.

Fitch reverses position and gets 70 seconds of top control with significant strikes before BJ gets back into his feet.

It looks pretty even but i'm leaning more towards 10-9 Fitch because of the volume of strikes landed and my realization that the control part was a lot more even than i thought.

i think my original scoring of the round was influenced by BJ's Strong First.
yeah i see what you mean, i too had given it too penn because it was similar to the 1st rounds but when you just watch round 2 its no doubt that fitch won...but bj did a damn good job!
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:03 AM   #39 (permalink)
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10-9 bj
10-9 fitch or 10-10 draw
10-8 bj

i was gutted during the 3rd round watching bj get absolutely dominated and he couldnt do a thing about it. i was sad because i was convinced BJ would lose the via unanimous decision...

when the decision came i was releived but at the same time i knew that it wasnt the right decision. even Bj KNEW he lost.

this was a BS decision for fitch. im a BJ fan.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:30 AM   #40 (permalink)
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wow, i just rewatched round 2 alone and there's no way Penn won it, Fitch got a takedown and landed a few not so significant strikes, then it got turned into a clinchfest where both scored strikes but Fitch was the one pressing Penn against the fence for most of the time, BJ then evens out with a takedown and about 25 seconds of back control and no significant strikes, Fitch gets 1:10 of Top Control from BJ's guard landing good strikes.

I had originally scored this as a draw.

all in all:


Fitch gets one takedown with about 40 seconds of top control and no significant strikes before BJ works back into his feet.

BJ hits a hard elbow from the clinch that busts Fitch ope along with some other good strikes

Fitch controls most of the clinch fight and lands some good strikes too.

BJ gets one takedown with 20 seconds of top control and no significant strikes from guard before taking the back.

BJ gets back control for 25 seconds with no significant strikes before Fitch gets into his guard.

Fitch reverses position and gets 70 seconds of top control with significant strikes before BJ gets back into his feet.

It looks pretty even but i'm leaning more towards 10-9 Fitch because of the volume of strikes landed and my realization that the control part was a lot more even than i thought.

i think my original scoring of the round was influenced by BJ's Strong First.
I completely agree with the first round creating a holdover effect. When I watched live and was rooting for Penn, I thought he won the 2nd easily.

Then after some time passed, and I actually thought about what was actually done in the second, it got much closer in my mind.

Now after finally re-watching just the second round... I can't believe I ever scored it for Penn. I'm actually a little ashamed of myself that I was that wrong about the round.
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