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View Poll Results: Your Fitch vs Penn Score

10-9 P, 10-9 P, 10-8 F, 28-28 Draw 30 29.70%
10-9 P, 10-10 D, 10-9 F, 28-28 Draw 7 6.93%
10-9 P, 10-9 P, 10-9 F, 29-28 Penn. 20 19.80%
10-9 P, 10-10 D, 10-8 F, 29-28 Fitch 10 9.90%
10-9 P, 10-9 F, 10-9 F, 29-28 Fitch 18 17.82%
10-9 P, 10-9 F, 10-8 F, 29-27 Fitch 14 13.86%
Some other combination 2 1.98%
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:46 AM   #41 (permalink)
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10-9 P, 10-9 P, 10-8 F, 28-28 Draw

You really need to be biased to score it any other way, because 3rd round was a textbook 10-8 round for Fitch, while the first 2 although being even were given to Penn for the takedown and the fact that he got Fitch's back both times. Fitch gaining top position both times had little value as it either happened so late or he couldn't get anything out from it (no better postion or noticeable G&P damage dealt)

Very easy 28-28 call, dunno how one of the judges managed to fail calling it again.
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:12 PM   #42 (permalink)
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10-9 P, 10-9 P, 10-8 F, 28-28 Draw

You really need to be biased to score it any other way, because 3rd round was a textbook 10-8 round for Fitch, while the first 2 although being even were given to Penn for the takedown and the fact that he got Fitch's back both times. Fitch gaining top position both times had little value as it either happened so late or he couldn't get anything out from it (no better postion or noticeable G&P damage dealt)

Very easy 28-28 call, dunno how one of the judges managed to fail calling it again.
And what did exactly Penn did in round two when he had Fitch's Back?
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:20 PM   #43 (permalink)
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10 - 9 BJ 1st round
DRAW 2nd round
10 - 8 Fitch 3rd round

Fitch wins. Close thread. The problem lies with the judging system itself, judges should be allowed to score rounds as a draw(or give out draws to rounds more frequently). They should also release the criteria judges use to rate fights for the public to see if they want to maintain a legitamate reputation.
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I think Joe Rogan did a great breackdown..

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"A draw could be expected, it depends on how you score the 3rd round. The 3rd round was a pretty decisive victory for Fitch. Some people thought it was a 10-8 round. It depends on how you use 10-8 rounds because the 10-8 round, the system that they use now I think it's like they don't give out enough 10-8 rounds, but you have to decide when is it a 10-8 round. When you're inside a guys guard and you just punch him to the body and the head, I'm not sure if that's a 10-8 round. I can see it argued, but BJ I thought won the first 2 rounds, but those were very close too, so I can it argued that Fitch did too, or well that Fitch won one of them. BJ took him down, got his back, but then he lost position and Fitch got on top of him. So the question is "what's worth more?" Is it worth more to take a guy down and to get a dominant position where you're close to finishing a fight, but then losing it and getting reversed and wind up in your guard with a guy on top of you throwing punches, is that better? Or is it better to take the guys back? What's worth more on points? Well, it's a subjective thing. So it's tricky. I can see the first 2 rounds scored for BJ, and I can see someone scoring one of them for Fitch, and I can see the third round being 10-8, so I can see a draw. It's tricky man, BJ's a bad m***********, but he's small for that weight class. When he's fighting, he's weighing 166 with his pants on and he's fighting Fitch. But this is the thing about Fitch, he was at one point in time 200lbs and would cut down to 170, but now he's all organic and vegan and he's walking around at 180 which is really light for him and then dropping a little weight, but his cardio is like way better now too."
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^^Agreed, I was surprised with BJ's performance(take-downs and take-down defense) in the 1st and 2nd round vs. a bigger opponent. Although not much of a Fitch fan, he stayed busy while on top and beat up on BJ pretty bad.
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10-9 Penn
10-9 Fitch
10-9 possibly 10-8 Fitch

every time i watch the fight i dont know how Penn escaped with a draw and neither does he.

Impressed with Penn's gameplan but i still think he needs to stay at LW he has no future at WW , He gave his all rounds 1 and 2 and couldnt last a 3rd round i think its quite clear to see he isnt going to champion at WW ever again.
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I completely agree with the first round creating a holdover effect. When I watched live and was rooting for Penn, I thought he won the 2nd easily.

Then after some time passed, and I actually thought about what was actually done in the second, it got much closer in my mind.

Now after finally re-watching just the second round... I can't believe I ever scored it for Penn. I'm actually a little ashamed of myself that I was that wrong about the round.
Respect to you and others that can admit. Watching that 2nd round and the amount of against the cage control Fitch had along with his signifigant striking volume edge, its very hard to give that round to BJ just for one TD and taking the back for all of 45 seconds. Fitch didnt do tremendous damage but he had about 4 min of that round he was in control and he threw 3x as many strikes as BJ and landed 3x as many.


Its honestly a no brainer Fitch round when watched out of context without bias' or other rounds influencing ppl.
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Vote is still going strong, try to help us gather more data :P
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So far, 56.06% of people think that it was either a draw, or Penn won.

42.37% of people think Fitch had won.
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So far, 56.06% of people think that it was either a draw, or Penn won.

42.37% of people think Fitch had won.

more importantly 53.68% of people think the third round was 10-8 Fitch.

and 50.53% think round 2 was 10-9 Penn.

With round 1 nearly unanimously scored 10-9 for Penn the data supports a draw, tho it's only a 0.53% difference that would tip him over to a Fitch victory. I'll provide a more through analysis when the poll is closed.
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