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View Poll Results: Who will win?

Diego Sanchez 10 34.48%
Martin Kampmann 19 65.52%
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:46 AM   #151 (permalink)
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This was an amazing fight!
First round was clearly all Kampmann but Diego just kept coming forward in the 2nd and 3rd. I had it 1st round for Kampmann and Diego getting the second and third. I'm a little surprised it was unanimous.
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Regardless of how anyone views this fight, I am REALLY happy that Diego got the win!

YES!!!! YES!!! YES!!!! I was getting so tired of people calling him overrated and untalented. This is a nice win over a legit top 10 opponent at welterweight. It's safe to say that he is over his loss to Penn. Yay!!

I just needed to get that out.
He is overrated. His base is wrestling, and he got like 1 TD out of 13 tries? And he was only on top for 10 seconds.

His striking is average at best.

He does have heart and cardio, but he gets lit up every fight. He won, because judges like Lenard Garcia type fighters. Come forward swing and maybe hit the shoulders and it is seen as effective striking. Only effective striking he had was in round 2, which I give him that round.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:52 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Good job trying to rain on my parade there.

Didn't exactly work because last time I checked, Diego Sanchez got the win against Martin Kampmann. No matter how much people complain about the decision, the only peoples opinions that matter are the three judges. Comparing that to Garcia vs. Phan is laughable. The decision was unanimous for a reason.

I didn't realize an overrated and barely talented fighter could get wins over guys like a prime Parisyan, Diaz, Riggs, Guida, Stevenson, Thiago, and Kampmann.

Sanchez did beat Kampmann too by the way. Your view on who won the fight is irrelevant because the records say that Diego won unanimously and that's all that matters. A fans opinion doesn't change that. Besides, it obviously isn't comparable to Phan vs. Garcia because for one, nearly every MMA fan agreed that Phan should have gotten that decision. Kampmann vs. Sanchez was very debatable, a lot of educated fans believe that Sanchez won while a lot of educated fans believe that Kampmann should have won. Regarding what "should have happened" is up in the air, though we do know what "did" happen.

I'm not sure why you wanted to make that post anyway. You would know that Sanchez is one of my favorite fighters if you looked at my signature. Why would you want to rain on my parade because I'm happy that one of my favorite fighters won an important fight? Sounds kind of uncalled for and makes someone look like a sore sport in my opinion, but to each his own. I recognize that the fight could have gone either way and I'm not going to bad mouth either fighter.

I'm still happy either way, Diego got a big and deserved win over a quality opponent.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:33 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Good job trying to rain on my parade there.

Didn't exactly work because last time I checked, Diego Sanchez got the win against Martin Kampmann. No matter how much people complain about the decision, the only peoples opinions that matter are the three judges. Comparing that to Garcia vs. Phan is laughable. The decision was unanimous for a reason.

I didn't realize an overrated and barely talented fighter could get wins over guys like a prime Parisyan, Diaz, Riggs, Guida, Stevenson, Thiago, and Kampmann.

Sanchez did beat Kampmann too by the way. Your view on who won the fight is irrelevant because the records say that Diego won unanimously and that's all that matters. A fans opinion doesn't change that. Besides, it obviously isn't comparable to Phan vs. Garcia because for one, nearly every MMA fan agreed that Phan should have gotten that decision. Kampmann vs. Sanchez was very debatable, a lot of educated fans believe that Sanchez won while a lot of educated fans believe that Kampmann should have won. Regarding what "should have happened" is up in the air, though we do know what "did" happen.

I'm not sure why you wanted to make that post anyway. You would know that Sanchez is one of my favorite fighters if you looked at my signature. Why would you want to rain on my parade because I'm happy that one of my favorite fighters won an important fight? Sounds kind of uncalled for and makes someone look like a sore sport in my opinion, but to each his own. I recognize that the fight could have gone either way and I'm not going to bad mouth either fighter.

I'm still happy either way, Diego got a big and deserved win over a quality opponent.
I agree that Kampmann vs. Sanchez is not anywhere comparable to Garcia vs. Phan. But if you're an "educated" MMA fan, you would know that Kampmann in reality won that fight. He outstruck Diego throughout the whole fight, was only taken down once during the entire fight despite Diego attempting around 15 takedown attempts. The only reason Diego won was because he was aggressive throughout the entire fight. He pushed Kampmann against the cage and swung away, landing few, and missing many. Kampmann should have moved away from the cage and continued to blow Diego's face up with counter punches like he did in the first round.

Diego did not "outfight" Kampmann. Period.

Kampmann showed that he was better in every aspect of the game except the mental aspect. Diego is a tough bastard with alot of heart, an unstoppable chin, and incredible cardio. I'll give him that. Based on pure effort, I would have given him that fight, and I'm glad he won, but no way did he prove he was the better fighter on Thursday. I'm not going to call that a "robbery" because while Kampmann won the fight, it wasn't as if he was in control the entire time in the second and third rounds, both of which were somewhat close, but I still gave to Kampmann.

It's okay to be excited when your favorite fighters win, but at least acknowledge without bias. We already have enough British-Bisping fans who will back Bisping regardless of what he does just because he's British.

Randy Couture is one of my favorite fighters and Big Nog is one of my least. I was pulling for Randy that entire fight, but it's no question he lost. I might have given Randy round 1, but the last two were all Big Nog. I had no doubt in my mind Big Frankenstein won that fight.
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I don't see how I was being biased. I recognized that the fight could have gone either way. Of course I'm going to be excited if one of my favorite fighters win a very close fight. If I were being biased, I'd be saying Diego beat him with relative ease. I like to think that I'm not some typical fan boy. I just stated the facts.

"If you're an "educated" MMA fan" You're almost saying who ever scored that fight for Diego is uneducated according to that. That's very bold of you to say. There are many educated fans on this forum and in general who scored that fight for Diego, and also vise versa. I think it's funny that we're all experts on educated MMA fans, I'll even throw myself into that category of thinking I'm an expert, haha.

I don't see any bias in my post other than me being happy about the decision. I've seen a lot of biased posts by people, and I usually try to keep a solid middle ground most of the time because that annoys me. Kind of like how if someone dislikes a fighter, they will go out of there way to always trash them no matter the situation, or if someone is a huge fan of a fighter, they always pick them to win a fight no matter what and always defend them regardless of the scenario. It's sort of comical.

I still think that it was unnecessary for someone to trash Diego after hearing that I was excited because he won. Just seemed like they were deliberately trying to troll, though that's just my opinion.
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Once Diego gets that takedown he turns it on. Did the same thing against Paulo Thiago. He definitely fights with a lot of emotion.

Gave the 1st to Kampmann, 2nd was super close, and 3rd to Diego. Justified decision.
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No matter how much people complain about the decision, the only peoples opinions that matter are the three judges.
Well, isn't that convenient? Keep that in mind the next time one of your favorite fighters is on the bad side of a controversial decision.
Luckily the only opinion that really matters is the fans' and there will be long debates on every bad decision so it will never be forgotten.
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I wouldn't say that they are the only ones that matter. If only the fans opinions mattered, Shields probably wouldn't be getting a title shot right now after his controversial win over Kampmann.

I will keep that in mind, I don't usually get that upset because I don't gamble. If a fighter should have clearly won and didn't, the management will probably recognize that and make sure that their futures in the UFC aren't hurt too much. Sort of like them still giving Phan his win bonus against Garcia, and saying that they would treat Dunham as if he won against Sherk.

The only decisions I get annoyed at are ones like Phan vs. Garcia where everyone pretty much agreed unanimously that Phan should have won including one of the judges. Though Diego vs. Kampmann, it's sort of down the middle thus far. A lot of fans think that Diego should have won and a lot think that Kampmann should have won. All three judges gave the fight to Diego as well. Dana White thinks that Diego deserved the win and I would say that his opinion has a lot of weight regarding peoples futures in the UFC.

Alright, I'm done with this topic now. I give credit to both fighters for making such an exciting fight for the fans. They deserved that bonus for sure.
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