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Old 02-28-2011, 07:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I haven't seen that blatant of an illegal knee in awhile. Bisping had full intentions of putting Rivera out with it, he set it up and everything. If the ref hadn't stepped in he'd have gone for another. Plus him being a d-bag before the weigh ins and spitting on Rivera's team, how can you wonder why he's being hated on?
Really... So you think Bisping decided **** the year i've put into going on a good run and putting myself in title contention - i wanna knock this guy out with an illegal knee get myself a DQ loss, a fine and another year set back in my goal to become champ... yup i'm sure thats what went through his mind
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Really... So you think Bisping decided **** the year i've put into going on a good run and putting myself in title contention - i wanna knock this guy out with an illegal knee get myself a DQ loss, a fine and another year set back in my goal to become champ... yup i'm sure thats what went through his mind

Hey, you ever think that maybe Bisping just isn't a rational, intelligent enough fighter to consciously decide NOT to throw that illegal knee when presented with the opportunity?


Just because he didn't GAMEPLAN an illegal knee doesn't mean he didn't throw it intentionally.
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Depends on the fighter. Me I'd cheat at least once a fight. Probably lime Kongo. One big groin kick will lower a fighters fighting ability... Mainly his striking.. I'd of course apologize and pretend to feel bad. But it'd probably be worth it.

But that's assuming the guy I'm fighting is a complete idiot. A smart fighter would choose not to continue after taking an illegal shot that diminished their abilities. Rivera should have not continued.
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Depends on the fighter. Me I'd cheat at least once a fight. Probably lime Kongo. One big groin kick will lower a fighters fighting ability... Mainly his striking.. I'd of course apologize and pretend to feel bad. But it'd probably be worth it.

But that's assuming the guy I'm fighting is a complete idiot. A smart fighter would choose not to continue after taking an illegal shot that diminished their abilities. Rivera should have not continued.
I agree but I don't think that's entirely fair. Being in that position, especially competing in the co-main event, would probably put a lot of pressure on you to continue. Pressure from the fans, your opponent, the ringside officials, and the organization you're fighting for. I think Rivera did himself a disservice by continuing but I think he thought he was doing the RIGHT thing.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Really... So you think Bisping decided **** the year i've put into going on a good run and putting myself in title contention - i wanna knock this guy out with an illegal knee get myself a DQ loss, a fine and another year set back in my goal to become champ... yup i'm sure thats what went through his mind
He meant to hurt Rivera in whatever way he could and the way he picked was an illegal blow. Stop defending the man for being an absolute prick the entire night.
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Mr Burns sums it up best:

Burns: Tell me, Simpson. If an opportunity arose for taking a small
shortcut, you wouldn't be adverse to taking it, would you?

Homer: Uhh, not as such.

Burns: Neither would I. I've always felt that there's far too much
hysteria these days about so-called cheating.

Homer: Yes, a lot of -- hysteria. [worried look]

Burns: Mm-hmm. If you can take advantage of a situation in some way,
it's your duty as an American to do it. Why should the race
always be to the swift or the jumble to the quick-witted? Should
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Well, I say cheating is the gift man gives himself!

Homer: Mr. Burns, I insist that we cheat.

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Old 03-01-2011, 02:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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People grab the fence, the gloves and shorts of the opponent all the time but as soon as Bisping does it Cagepotato writes an article about it?

Ok the knee sucked and there is really no excuse for that but since its Bisping it gets blown out of proportion. I've seen similar fouls 10+ times where the "cheater" won but nobody really cared then.
I think the difference now between then is that there is a good alternative to the UFC; Strikeforce. They have a very hyped HW tournament and it's doing wonders for their rep, to the point that people can compare the way SF handles their fighters and the UFC does, and they're looking for answers instead of accepting what the organization says now and whichever one is more honest is going to be the most successful one I think.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The knee was 100% blatant illegal I agree. But there is no proof it was intentional though.
Of course he intended to throw that knee or else he wouldn't have. It's not like Jorge was just dropping down to his knees either. He was kneeling in front of Bisping. You can see Bisping thinking about it, grabbing Jorge's head, holding on for a second and then throwing it. That took about 4-5 seconds. He did have a choice of letting it go instead he kneed Rivera in the forehead.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:49 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Of course he intended to throw that knee or else he wouldn't have. It's not like Jorge was just dropping down to his knees either. He was kneeling in front of Bisping. You can see Bisping thinking about it, grabbing Jorge's head, holding on for a second and then throwing it. That took about 4-5 seconds. He did have a choice of letting it go instead he kneed Rivera in the forehead.
You description of the event is just subjective. We can go on and on but we both only have opinions. No one have proof. Thats the only point I'm trying to make.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:24 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Cheaters inevitably fail at life and regret it. I've seen it in college, in the military and in the professional world.

I watched the fight over a few times, it looked pretty intentional to me. And spitting on mat - liar. Then calling Rivera classless afterward - pathetic, shallow garbage.

Bisping showed me he was a cheat & a liar, and I wish the worst to him. He'll look back on his Rivera fight and realize what a dirtbag he was.



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