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post #21 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-01-2011, 07:05 AM
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Depends on the fighter. Me I'd cheat at least once a fight. Probably lime Kongo. One big groin kick will lower a fighters fighting ability... Mainly his striking.. I'd of course apologize and pretend to feel bad. But it'd probably be worth it.

But that's assuming the guy I'm fighting is a complete idiot. A smart fighter would choose not to continue after taking an illegal shot that diminished their abilities. Rivera should have not continued.
I agree 100%, but the thing is: What would be the consequences of pissing DW that much? I´m guessing Dana would be so pissed that Rivera´s UFC career would not last long.

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I think one of the odd things about this whole case was the fight doc in the cage. There are times where you let the fighter decide if he can continue and there are times where you don't. A cut? Sure, if the fighter wants to risk it fine, you can always stop it later if the cut gets worse. Illegal shots like knees to the head, kicks to the face, etc, I think the doctor needs to make his own assessment of the fighter. There was a clear and recognizable difference in just Rivera's facial expression before and after the knee. Afterwards his eyes were wide open and glassed over, his mouth wasn't fully closed yet he wasn't breathing hard, even looked slightly paler (but that could come from anything to be honest). It was clear the man was not able to continue the fight and be able to defend himself properly.

To me this comes down to fight docs needing to be able to take the criticism to stop the fight to do what they are there to do, protect the fighters. To me, Bisping threw an illegal knee, Rivera was 'too much of a man' to admit he was hurt, and the doc ****ed it all up by allowing the fight to continue. I didn't care if there was no winner declared, I just knew that afterwards the fight would not be the same, and it wasn't.
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You description of the event is just subjective. We can go on and on but we both only have opinions. No one have proof. Thats the only point I'm trying to make.
Well, he threw the knee. That's the only proof I need. Such decisions are not subconscious, they are deliberate.




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Any other fighter and by any I mean any. Hell I'd wager even if Hitler rose from the grave and stomped a Jew to death in the octogan then urinated on him afterwards, while making an anti semetic speech, while setting kittens on fire, he would still get less grief than Bisping.

Yes the knee was deliberate, yes he acted like a bit of a douche afterwards but you need to take the hater shades off. I mean the OP actually went out of their way to write a huge rant about why cheaters prosper and focus 95% of it on Bisping.

Also I'm not racist I have nothing against Jews I was just using that as an example of how butt hurt some of the anti Bisping crowd are so deluded. The fact that Rivera wasn't even causing Bisping a problem in that fight, the fact that the '2nd knee he was about to throw' is rubbish he didn't even cock the knee back a second time he looked to me like he realised what he had done before pushing Rivera off.

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Remember when Kevin Burns eviscerated Anthony Johnson's eye like 4 times during their first fight and got the win when AJ's retina was nearly torn off. AJ got his revenge but it shouldn't have been a issue in the first place. In the end Burns has a cheat win on his record and got the win bonus.
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I think one of the odd things about this whole case was the fight doc in the cage. There are times where you let the fighter decide if he can continue and there are times where you don't. A cut? Sure, if the fighter wants to risk it fine, you can always stop it later if the cut gets worse. Illegal shots like knees to the head, kicks to the face, etc, I think the doctor needs to make his own assessment of the fighter. There was a clear and recognizable difference in just Rivera's facial expression before and after the knee. Afterwards his eyes were wide open and glassed over, his mouth wasn't fully closed yet he wasn't breathing hard, even looked slightly paler (but that could come from anything to be honest). It was clear the man was not able to continue the fight and be able to defend himself properly.

To me this comes down to fight docs needing to be able to take the criticism to stop the fight to do what they are there to do, protect the fighters. To me, Bisping threw an illegal knee, Rivera was 'too much of a man' to admit he was hurt, and the doc ****ed it all up by allowing the fight to continue. I didn't care if there was no winner declared, I just knew that afterwards the fight would not be the same, and it wasn't.
Why dont you leave the being a doctor part to the doctors.

And lol @ all the brits defending Bisping just because of his nationality. All brits must be classless doouchebags thats why you guys defend him isnt it?
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