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Old 03-01-2011, 11:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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One thing I don't like is the multitude of fights where all kinds of trash talking goes on, and there is apparent hatred, only for them to hug and kiss and be polite after the fight. This seems to happen all the time, and does more to make UFC seem like WWE, because the 'heat' feels fake and manufactured. The above doesn't refer to some light respect being banded about after being in the octagon together, but more to the all in love-athons that seem to occur as soon as a fight has ended, along with phrases such as 'I didn't mean any of it' and 'it was all for hype'.

If the hatred continues in to the post match, then at least you sense its real. Given that UFC is trying to distinguish itself from manufactured entertainment such as WWE, then I'd argue that this situation, along with standard fights that don't contain fake hatred, is preferable to me.

At least I feel like I've paid to see a grudge match that has an actual grudge in it.
Why can't it all be real? Genuine emotion before and genuine emotion after? You mention WWE, but all sports have this. Boxing matches end like that all the time.

I have no problem with fighters putting it all behind them after the fight. It doesn't make them any less real, nor the pre-fight emotions any less real. Even me as a fan have completely different emotions before and after watching fights. Why shouldn't the fighters?
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Why can't it all be real? Genuine emotion before and genuine emotion after? You mention WWE, but all sports have this. Boxing matches end like that all the time.

I have no problem with fighters putting it all behind them after the fight. It doesn't make them any less real, nor the pre-fight emotions any less real. Even me as a fan have completely different emotions before and after watching fights. Why shouldn't the fighters?
The point being, that it isn't genuine emotion before, in all cases.

Sometimes they legitimately put the beef behind them, after a genuinely heated pre match build up, and that's totally cool. However, sometimes they talk all this fake crap about each other, go out and have a mediocre emotionless fight, then have a hugathon at the end.

It grates on me, the more I see it.
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The point being, that it isn't genuine emotion before, in all cases.

Sometimes they legitimately put the beef behind them, after a genuinely heated pre match build up, and that's totally cool. However, sometimes they talk all this fake crap about each other, go out and have a mediocre emotionless fight, then have a hugathon at the end.

It grates on me, the more I see it.
Fair enough.
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The point being, that it isn't genuine emotion before, in all cases.

Sometimes they legitimately put the beef behind them, after a genuinely heated pre match build up, and that's totally cool. However, sometimes they talk all this fake crap about each other, go out and have a mediocre emotionless fight, then have a hugathon at the end.

It grates on me, the more I see it.
There are times where it is clear it is not legitimate, but I think more often than not it is. These guys are all super alpha males and I think they work themselves up before the fight believing what they say. Once it is post fight and they have dumped it all they really couldn't care less about each other. Few guys love working out, most of them using it as the extra incentive to go to the gym everyday. BJ Penn is an easy example of this method.
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There are times where it is clear it is not legitimate, but I think more often than not it is. These guys are all super alpha males and I think they work themselves up before the fight believing what they say. Once it is post fight and they have dumped it all they really couldn't care less about each other. Few guys love working out, most of them using it as the extra incentive to go to the gym everyday. BJ Penn is an easy example of this method.
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