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Old 03-02-2011, 10:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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of course Wittman wants Rashad to get that title. He prob already drew the epic pictures of Rashad KOing Jones and getting it and it would be a waste of time if he didnt follow thru.


Trevor has an epic man crush on Rashad. I'd be worried if i was Jones.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
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If fighters are willing to step in front of their training partners for the title then they should be willing to fight each other, simple.
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Had he declined the fight it would has PISSED Dana off big time, he would be there with fitch, dana would not give him a shot for another two years. That being said, you just dont turn down a shot at the belt in the UFC, unless your Rampage..
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of course Wittman wants Rashad to get that title. He prob already drew the epic pictures of Rashad KOing Jones and getting it and it would be a waste of time if he didnt follow thru.


Trevor has an epic man crush on Rashad. I'd be worried if i was Jones.


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That's an absurb interview. Trevor is obvioiusly a tad bit eccentric I think just from how he words things.

This fight can't be bad for Jones' career, even if he loses. If he loses he's going to learn a ton from that loss unless its some crazy 5s knockout. Shogun is going to show him a lot of tricks/angles/techniques and I have no doubts that Jones will remember those things and it will make him a stronger fighter.

As far as Rashad goes, who cares about that guy. He comes out talking about how taking a match before Shogun had recovered would "hurt his brand". I wonder how hurt his brand is now that he waited all that time only to get injured along with the fact that he's going to change weight classes if JBJ wins.

Jones seems to have made a good career choice and Rashad seems to have made a few silly career choices. I guess if Jones loses and Rashad wins the impact is lessened to me. Either way Jones really didn't have a choice when Rogan put him on the spot. If he turned it down and said what Trevor suggested, Dana would have just called up Rampage and said that he just won the lottery.
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good...rashad should listen to him...because even if rashad moves to HW or MW...he will still need to fight friends, he has friends in both divisions

and if GSP moves up to MW..thats one more friend he cant fight, really...rashad you're always friends with top guys in the division, is this some kind of strategy he uses? as soon as he sees some1 good he becomes their best friend so he will never face them?

good strategy...but lyoto will still KYTFO, and if you move, cain or AS will KYTFO..that is if you are even able to get a title shot..you have to FIGHT to get one in case you didnt know
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If fighters are willing to step in front of their training partners for the title then they should be willing to fight each other, simple.
LOL!
Jumping in front of Rashad?!
What are you talking about?
Rashad was in fron of everyone for almost one year, waiting for his title shot.

Not wanting to fight your teammate, because you consider him like family or you have certain moral values, is one thing.
Passing out on the opportunity to fight for a world championship belt, especially when your teammate is injured and you don't know when and/or in what shape he comes back...is a whole different thing!

Comparing these situations is like comparing onions and oranges.

I don't think Junior dos Santos felt sorry when he knew he got a title shot...and poor Nog had to fight off injuries.
Even if that situation didn't imply a title shot for both guys.

Pride GP, 2005: Shogun beat Overeem in the semifinal.
In the other semifinal, Wanderlei was fighting Arona.
At that moment, Wanderlei and Shogun were training partners.
They could have met in the final, but Arona beat Silva and thus, the MMA community/fans were robbed from a fight that would have been very very interesting to watch.
Shogun eventually destroyed Arona, i assume you know that.
But i don't think he was tormented by guilt or other sentimental feeling because Arona beat Silva. In fact, i believe he was more pumped than ever, trying, not only to beat Arona and win the title, but also avenge Silva's loss in the process.

PS: That fight not happening is one of my biggest regrets about MMA!
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LOL!
Jumping in front of Rashad?!
What are you talking about?
Rashad was in fron of everyone for almost one year, waiting for his title shot.

Not wanting to fight your teammate, because you consider him like family or you have certain moral values, is one thing.
Passing out on the opportunity to fight for a world championship belt, especially when your teammate is injured and you don't know when and/or in what shape he comes back...is a whole different thing!

Comparing these situations is like comparing onions and oranges.

I don't think Junior dos Santos felt sorry when he knew he got a title shot...and poor Nog had to fight off injuries.
Even if that situation didn't imply a title shot for both guys.

Pride GP, 2005: Shogun beat Overeem in the semifinal.
In the other semifinal, Wanderlei was fighting Arona.
At that moment, Wanderlei and Shogun were training partners.
They could have met in the final, but Arona beat Silva and thus, the MMA community/fans were robbed from a fight that would have been very very interesting to watch.
Shogun eventually destroyed Arona, i assume you know that.
But i don't think he was tormented by guilt or other sentimental feeling because Arona beat Silva. In fact, i believe he was more pumped than ever, trying, not only to beat Arona and win the title, but also avenge Silva's loss in the process.

PS: That fight not happening is one of my biggest regrets about MMA!
well...rashad did say it wasnt serious but he would need 6 weeks to heal up, so its not like he is going to be out a LONG time, im not saying JBJ shouldnt have taken the shot, of course he should

not only that but who else would they offer it to? rampage turned it down, griffin hurt himself in the fight against franklin and machida is coming off 2 losses..there really wasnt any1 else

JBJ did what he had to do for himself and the UFC
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This is almost funny. So you really thing JBJ should have turned down the fight? HELL NO!!! That would have been career ending for him as well. Rashad should man up and fight JBJ if he wants the belt. Well, if JBJ wins which is very possible. I give him a better chance than Rashad. You don't turn down a title fight without repercussions especially when the UFC needs you to step up.
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“I feel Jon Jones could have been like, ‘Hey man, I’ll tell you what. I’m going to take another fight,’” Wittman said. “And let Rashad -- he’s not at the beginning of his career. He’s at the peak and the tail end of it. Let him go fight for it.”

What kind of fairy tale world is he living in lol..
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NO F__in way!
Pass on the opportunity to fight for the title??!
Every fighter's objective is to become a champion!

The "gain more experience" quote doesn't work in situations like this.
99% of the fighters would have accepted the challenge of fighting against Shogun.

And another thing: the "fight for the title down the line" expression is even more out of place in this case.
Rashad, out of all people, waited one year for the title shot and look what happened. he could have fought someone else in the meantime, maybe for an interim title and who knows what would have happened.

In life you gotta grab every opportunity that comes your way and try to make the best out of it.



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Agreed!
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Way back when after Pete Spratt beat Robbie Lawler he turned down the title shot the UFC offered him to fight Hughes at the time because he felt he wasn't ready.

Needless to say Spratt never got another title shot and his chance to win the UFC belt would never come again.

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“I feel Jon Jones could have been like, ‘Hey man, I’ll tell you what. I’m going to take another fight,’” Wittman said. “And let Rashad -- he’s not at the beginning of his career. He’s at the peak and the tail end of it. Let him go fight for it.”

What kind of fairy tale world is he living in lol..
The same fairy tail world where two men with the same goal say ah hey thats cool guy you be the champ and i will change weight classes.
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