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Old 03-03-2011, 10:51 AM   #41 (permalink)
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the issue with rashad is even if he moves to MW he has friends there too!

and GSP will soon move to MW..that will be another top guy that he wont fight! rashad has way too many friends that are top guys, how will he get a shot at AS without going through nate and GSP??? and he has carwin as a friend at HW! come on man...its getting ridiculous
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:55 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I agree. My original point was JBJ and Rashad should be willing to fight each other, solves this mess properly. No problem in Jones having a shot, but it's sad for Rashad if he can't have another one after beating T.Silva and Rampage, albeit in the most boring way possible in both fights
lol it just made me think if he moves to MW and faces AS, he might win by tapout due to boredom

I don't really understand what rashaad is even doing there, I have nothing against wrestlers in general, but this guy makes it look like the most boring sport in the world.

refusing to fight friends is mixing personal with business matters, and that is NEVER EVER a good idea

UFC/MMA is not violence, it's not hate, it's just a sport. Do we see tennis players not wanting to play against their friends ? I never liked that guy or the image he uses or whatever. I'd support jones 10 times before him, just because he's actually making a show.

Such "pacts" are childish, nothing more, because they show how some people are not smart enough to make the difference between business and personal life
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:01 PM   #43 (permalink)
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^^ Thats easy to say when you're just a spectator.
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^^ Thats easy to say when you're just a spectator.
i think its a valid point, many friends have fought in MMA, in K1 and boxing brothers fight, overreem and his brother would fight each other

ive fought my best friends, i would fight my brother, fighting isnt a negative thing if you view it as a sport, its nothing personal, its fun...at least if you are a fighter it SHOULD be fun

going in there against a friend is just another day at the office, and afterwards the loser buys the beers and thats that

i just think rashad is afraid to face him...he probably gets schooled during their training
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I'd really like to be in Rashad's head right now, just to know what his thinking. I mean, sure he does say that he won't fight him but is it what he truly wants? We are talking about a guy who was willing to wait a year for his title shot.
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Best thing for Rashad is if Jones loses and loses BAD. If Shogun knocks him out that would put him back down to fighting mid tiers and below, free of hype.

Luckily for Evans...
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Best thing for Rashad is if Jones loses and loses BAD. If Shogun knocks him out that would put him back down to fighting mid tiers and below, free of hype.

Luckily for Evans...
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NO WAY! You're talking non-sense!

Let me get this straight: young, talented prospect, losing his first fight (Hamill doesn't count really), against the champion, in a fight taken on a 6 weeks notice = fighting mid tiers and below that?!

Never gonna happen!
Or...depends who you consider mid tier. If Thiago Silva, Forrest Griffin and/or Lyoto Machida are mid tiers (or below) for you - then yes! I agree!
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NO WAY! You're talking non-sense!

Let me get this straight: young, talented prospect, losing his first fight (Hamill doesn't count really), against the champion, in a fight taken on a 6 weeks notice = fighting mid tiers and below that?!

Never gonna happen!
Or...depends who you consider mid tier. If Thiago Silva, Forrest Griffin and/or Lyoto Machida are mid tiers (or below) for you - then yes! I agree!
Hmmm. Jones hasn't beat any top guys though, he's only getting a shot because 2 contenders couldn't fight Shogun. If Shogun KOd Jones, considering how young and inexperienced he is, do you think Dana would throw him in with T.Silva or worse yet, Machida? I think the hype would die down quite a bit and Dana would know it's early for Jones. Putting him in with guys that have lethal standup isn't doing him any favours.

Maybe Griffin at the most, but I think Jones would get at least one warm up fight before facing one of the top 5.
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Hmmm. Jones hasn't beat any top guys though, he's only getting a shot because 2 contenders couldn't fight Shogun. If Shogun KOd Jones, considering how young and inexperienced he is, do you think Dana would throw him in with T.Silva or worse yet, Machida? I think the hype would die down quite a bit and Dana would know it's early for Jones. Putting him in with guys that have lethal standup isn't doing him any favours.

Maybe Griffin at the most, but I think Jones would get at least one warm up fight before facing one of the top 5.
I guess, we will have to wait and see...
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^^ Thats easy to say when you're just a spectator.
it's also easy to say when you made that actual mistake and paid the price for it.

other people can do it, therefore he should be able to do it too. it's easy to say and just as easy to do, you just do it, it doesn't take a particular effort, being smart enough does the job, then you get used to it and grow into being comfortable. Of course it's not done overnight but it's like for people who want to quit smoking, you just have to stop doing it, and it takes willpower more than anything else. I never said it was easy, but at this level, these guys should be prepared and ready to fight anyone, because they're professional, their job is to do it.

If you're a supervisor and your boss tells you to fire a friend of yours, you just do it, maybe you try and put a word in for the dude, but ultimately, you're going to do it or take the chance to lose your job. That's being professional. And when you're working in the world #1 company as an "executive", you're expected to be professional.

nothing to do with easier said than done or whatever, that can apply to small/amateur leagues maybe, but not when you're on top of the world.
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