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post #61 of 111 (permalink) Old 03-04-2011, 01:48 AM
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I thought Kampmann clearly won the 2nd round. In the two exchanges when Kampmann gets slightly buckled that's all it is, he wasn't that badly hurt and a buckle isn't a knockdown, not to mention Kampmann also landed good shots in those two exchanges he wasn't slumped up against the fence getting tee'd off on like Brock was against Carwin. The only round I can see Diego winning is the 3rd because Kampmann slowed down and Diego got the TD and the judges seem to score TD's higher than anything else. I though it was a clear 29-28 for Kampmann.
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I gave Sanchez the second and third.

Kampmann got robbed against Sheilds.

I love that he said look at his face after the fight, if it matter what a guy looked like after BJ Penn would be undefeated. And Kampman saying he won all three rounds is hilarious. He got hurt bad in the second and then got taken down in an even third. Advantage Diego.

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I just re-watched the fight and I'm split. Looking at the fight as a whole it is very easy for me to see that Kampmann won, but scoring it as a per round basis it is very close. Round 1 was clearly Kampmann's. Round 2 and 3 were close; if you look at the fight metric the significant strikes in the 2nd are 26 for Kampmann and 22 for Sanchez (and Sanchez made Kampmann's knees buckle), while in the 3rd they both had 19.
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As I expected Kampmann gets the win from the 2nd round.

One thing I think the judges grossly overlooked(as well as hasn't been talked about yet in this thread) is Kampmann stuffing Sanchez's takedowns with ease in the 1st and 2nd. That alone should be worth some points as well.
Great point. Takedowns are worth so much, you might as well stop trying to knock people out and get takedowns over and over again. Yet, stuffing a takedown is worth practically nothing. Chubby Diego's wrestling was negated in the first two rounds, yet his one takedown is his saving grace. Pure crap.

Anyone judging this fight for Diego is understandable to me. However, it also clearly shows that the judging system is invalid and needs to be completely revamped.

I only wish it was a 5 round fight so Diego could have gone retarded crazy with his punches with a closed left eye. That would have been hilarious. Winning a fight when you can't see the judges when it's over is awesome.


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I gave Sanchez the second and third.

Kampmann got robbed against Sheilds.

I love that he said look at his face after the fight, if it matter what a guy looked like after BJ Penn would be undefeated. And Kampman saying he won all three rounds is hilarious. He got hurt bad in the second and then got taken down in an even third. Advantage Diego.
Based on your logic you can land 1 or 2 big punches and one takedown in an entire fight and you should be given a decision? I'm speechless. What about the rest of the fight where he was being used as a human pinata?
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Another case for main event's being 5 rounder's. Even though I like Kampmann more than Diego and thought Kampmann won the fight, if their were two more rounds no doubt Diego would have won. Kampmann slowed down immensely after the second.
Everyone keeps saying that Diego would have smashed kampmann if it had been a 5 round fight... but that is completely crazy. Diego's left eye was completely closed after round three and the fight would have been stopped. Even if it hadn't been stopped, he couldn't see for shit and Kampmann would have thrown right head kicks for 10 minutes.

Yeah, Diego had more gas in the tank and can throw way more wild ass punches, but it is hard to win a fight when you can't see a damn thing.


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Based on your logic you can land 1 or 2 big punches and one takedown in an entire fight and you should be given a decision? I'm speechless. What about the rest of the fight where he was being used as a human pinata?
First, before you judge my logic, make sure you know how I've called fights, so please don't be disrespectful.

And that is not what I said, that is how I scored this fight, I judge every fight on it's own because you know, every fight is different. If you get taken apart for a whole round and land one big shot ala Silva Maia then it's not enough to win the round. However, in this fight, the 2nd was relatively even to that point and Sanchez hit him with a few big shots in two flurries. One where he clearly hurt Kampmann and then at the end of the round. The third was even closer, but Sanchez got a take down, there for being enough to steal the round.

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Based on your logic you can land 1 or 2 big punches and one takedown in an entire fight and you should be given a decision? I'm speechless. What about the rest of the fight where he was being used as a human pinata?
He didn't do anything with the takedown; I don't think that should count unless there was no other action in the round. Also, as someone already posted, Kampmann stuffed 14 (93%) of Sanchez's takedowns.
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He didn't do anything with the takedown; I don't think that should count unless there was no other action in the round. Also, as someone already posted, Kampmann stuffed 14 (93%) of Sanchez's takedowns.
Okay, so if I created the scoring system, then stuffed TD and getting TD that didn't do anything would count for something and would affect the final decision. However because I didn't nor did anyone on this board write the scoring system, it's the way it is. Where TDD doesn't really count and TD are HUGE. I don't score fights on my system, I scored using the system that judges use.

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Diego won in my book.

If you punch me 5 times, but don't hurt me, and I punch you once and I drop you, I think I just won. That is how I look at this.
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