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Old 02-11-2007, 06:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Theres abosolutly nothing wrong with saying you think Chuck could KO Shogun. I think Shogun, Chuck, and Wandy are about as close as 3 fighters could get. So its tough to call. But to say Shogun hasnt fought anyone is just silly.
We should throw all 3 of them into a cage and have a free for all! Last man standing will be crown the undisputed light heavyweight fighter of the world.

No, but seriously ... is this thread a joke? I could see Liddell knocking out Rua, but no way is this a definite ending to this dream match-up.
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Shogun mowed through Rampage & Arona like they were beginners. Shogun is one of my current favorites. Shogun is deadly on his feet and on the ground. I think if anyone could beat Chuck, it's Shogun.

lil Nog vs Shogun ruled. It's often pimped, and with good reason.

People keep bringing up his lackluster performance against Nak(Who doesn't suck). Some fighters have lackluster performances. Bas had the Randleman & Ken Shamrock fights. Nogueira had the Fedor fights. Cro Cop had the Randleman fight. It just happens. Shogun still won the fight, so it's still a W regardless.

Please people, pay attention to what this man says. There are so many of you who need to know what he has to say. Another quality post by Mr. Mike Damone.

And Shogun is one of my top 3 favorites as well....but so is Liddell.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Please people, pay attention to what this man says. There are so many of you who need to know what he has to say. Another quality post by Mr. Mike Damone.

And Shogun is one of my top 3 favorites as well....but so is Liddell.
I agree! i smell Damone as member of the month material! the dude knows what he 's talking about!
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Old 02-11-2007, 10:02 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I voted Damone for member of the month. I like Organik alot but I think Damone knows more mma than just about anyone on this site.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:26 AM   #25 (permalink)
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please...shogun would win...

wanderlei would KO chuck.. chuck doesnt even fight strikers... wanderlei is far more aggresive and is far more well rounded then liddell.. and uses much more then just his fists to strike..

shogun is 24.. liddell is 37.. or 38... and i still think shogun would dominate chuck... hed force the clench.. take him down and submit him...his flexibility and potential is crazy .. he has KO power and is a smart fighter with quick recovery time.!

LilNog vs Liddell should be talked about much more... i think this would be very intresting.. and i do not picture chuck winning this either

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Old 02-12-2007, 12:28 AM   #26 (permalink)
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wanderlei would KO chuck.. chuck doesnt even fight strikers... wanderlei is far more aggresive and is far more well rounded then liddell

shogun is 24.. liddell is 37.. or 38... and i still think shogun would dominate chuck... hed force the clench.. take him down and submit him.!
finally someone who isn't sucking off chuck. repped. chuck is without a doubt a great fighter, but wandy and shogun have the abilities to beat him. you cant just say chuck will ko these guys, its alot closer than that.
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wandy would ko chuck, chuck vs. shogun is a tossup for me.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:04 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I am pretty sure that Chuck would beat Shogun by KO. I do not think that he would really dominate him or anything but when Chuck wins people sleep. I do not think Shogun would be able to get Chuck to the ground, if they fought in a ring Shogun whould have a better chance. But look how Chuck fought in the Clinch against Randy and that should prove that he knows how to fight in the Clinch. Look at how he fought against Tito and that should prove that he is tough to get to the ground. Once he is on the ground he just stands up. I dont think that Chuck would be fooled against Shoguns fancy kicks like Rampage did. Rampage fought much better when he fought Chuck than he did against Shogun.

I just think think people do not give Chuck the props he deserives in consideration of clinch fighting and his ground game. And by ground game I mean, getting back to his feet.

Shogun is a great fighter I just think Chuck is a better striker and I dont think that Shogun could take him to the ground. Wandy has a much better chance against Chuck, although I still think Chuck could take Wandy but that is another topic.

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What makes you think Chuck is a better striker? Has he fought a good striker recently to prove that?
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
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you forgot to say he beat one of the nog's. i have no clue how you think chuck would knock out shogun. i can understand it if you said could, but not would. shogun is, by many people, considered the #1 LHW in the world. i think it is too good of a match-up to say that chuck would win. and in reality, it depends how they fight: PRIDE rules or UFC. chuck could get in some pretty good trouble in the ring, because his takedown defense wouldnt have the built in aide: the cage. i think it would be a good fight. but i'm not really willing to say its gonna be one-sided, the way you have.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the cage take away from takedown defense? If you get pinned up against the cage you can't spread your legs out behind you and thus takes away the ability to stop the takedown. That's why in his second fight with Randy Couture he trained to circle out around the cage so that he didn't get pinned against it. If anything, the pride boxing ring would help his takedown defense by giving him much more room to move around and avoid the takedown, or at least that's my impression.
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