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Old 03-06-2011, 01:41 PM   #101 (permalink)
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"wow i really didnt realise it was that hard to put on 10 pounds of muscle..."

With all due respect ACTAFOOL, do you work out? I mean, have you ever had your body composition / body fat measured, begun a weight training, diet and fitness regimen, and then seen exactly how long it takes to add quality lean body mass / muscle? It takes time. Adding muscle is a slow, laborious process.

GSP, being an ectomoprh, probably adds muscle more quickly than most. But I can tell you that adding 10-15 lbs. of quality lean body mass NATURALLY takes a lot of time. It is impossible to predict exactly how much time, but suffice it to say that it does not happen over night, even for someone as genetically gifted and ultra motivated as GSP.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:45 PM   #102 (permalink)
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There are plenty of acceptable reasons. Maybe not acceptable to you, but acceptable never the less. They are numerous and listed throughout this thread. You dont seem to really be accepting there is any argument at all. I cant debate with that.
you just don't want to accept it that is all!

I gave you the chance to name me only one fighter in all combat sports out there who did not move up or went into retirement when he dominated everyone he faces at his own weight.

There is nobody, you and me we both know that. And we both know that GSP has only two options here.

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To be honest, Silva also started to seek the 'bigger weightclass' challange when he was 7-0, which GSP is right now I think, and he fought Irvin. What you are asking from GSP is to fight arguably the best p4p fighter who is bigger than him in his first MW fight. Somewhere down the line, yes, GSP should fight Silva, but as his first fight in MW? No. I think GSP should get a MW warmup fight. If GSP loses, then there really is no reason for him to fight Silva. If he wins, well then it's a whole other ball game.
You should read my other posts as well!

I said GSP does NOT need to face Silva when he doesn't want to do this. But he NEEDS to move up or hang them up. He could fight as many MW's as there are and wait until Silva is done.. or he can challenge him right now, right here.

but like everybody else, it's not his fault if he doesn't want to fight Silva in his first MW fight and I don't demand this from him at ALL. He can fight whoever, even a top 40 guy. But he needs to fight bigger guys and he needs to start now, because he doesn't have any competition left.

or like I said, do some Wrestling or just quit if you don't look for challenges.
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Old 03-06-2011, 02:12 PM   #103 (permalink)
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you just don't want to accept it that is all!

I gave you the chance to name me only one fighter in all combat sports out there who did not move up or went into retirement when he dominated everyone he faces at his own weight.

There is nobody, you and me we both know that. And we both know that GSP has only two options here.



You should read my other posts as well!

I said GSP does NOT need to face Silva when he doesn't want to do this. But he NEEDS to move up or hang them up. He could fight as many MW's as there are and wait until Silva is done.. or he can challenge him right now, right here.

but like everybody else, it's not his fault if he doesn't want to fight Silva in his first MW fight and I don't demand this from him at ALL. He can fight whoever, even a top 40 guy. But he needs to fight bigger guys and he needs to start now, because he doesn't have any competition left.

or like I said, do some Wrestling or just quit if you don't look for challenges.
Silva didnt go up to LHW and fight for the belt god damn it! He fought Irvin and then Forrest. The two things are so far apart. Why are you not demanding Silva fight Rua? Why not let GSP move up to MW and have a couple of fights first?

The double standards are astounding.

EDIT. Scrap that. You suggesting GSP should quit if he doesnt face Silva is simply ridiculous. I refuse to engage anymore.
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Silva didnt go up to LHW and fight for the belt god damn it! He fought Irvin and then Forrest. The two things are so far apart. Why are you not demanding Silva fight Rua? Why not let GSP move up to MW and have a couple of fights first?

The double standards are astounding.

EDIT. Scrap that. You suggesting GSP should quit if he doesnt face Silva is simply ridiculous. I refuse to engage anymore.
You fail to realize my point and you missread my posts completely, plus you pay no attention to them at all.

GSP needs to move up.. he doesn't want to fight Silva? Thats absolutely ok. Thing is he needs to move up or retire. Nobody wants to see him beat up the same guys over and over again.. it's not what Champions do! If you have no challenge left, you go out and look for them. If you do not want to do this, you hang them up.

Everybody does so, Silva, BJ Penn.. they all did it, nobody forces you to fight the guy with the belt when you move up in weight. He can fight whoever there is, fact is he needs challenges just like every other dominant Champion out there in any other combat sport there is.

Manny Paquiou fought in how many divisions? Like 8 or 9?? He had no competition left, so he went out of his comfort zone and challenged himself. Thats just what ever real Champion does.

Or would it be ok for you if Aldo just continues to beat up the FW devision until he is 40? Hell No! He needs to challenge himself if there is nothing left, wich is too move up in weight. But you will find a way to debate this as well I guess.
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You fail to realize my point and you missread my posts completely, plus you pay no attention to them at all.

GSP needs to move up.. he doesn't want to fight Silva? Thats absolutely ok. Thing is he needs to move up or retire. Nobody wants to see him beat up the same guys over and over again.. it's not what Champions do! If you have no challenge left, you go out and look for them. If you do not want to do this, you hang them up.

Everybody does so, Silva, BJ Penn.. they all did it, nobody forces you to fight the guy with the belt when you move up in weight. He can fight whoever there is, fact is he needs challenges just like every other dominant Champion out there in any other combat sport there is.

Manny Paquiou fought in how many divisions? Like 8 or 9?? He had no competition left, so he went out of his comfort zone and challenged himself.
So, say GSP moved up to MW, fought.. one C level figher and a gatekeeper, then moved back to WW and announced he will never fight at MW again.. he will 'fix' his legacy in your eyes?
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So, say GSP moved up to MW, fought.. one C level figher and a gatekeeper, then moved back to WW and announced he will never fight at MW again.. he will 'fix' his legacy in your eyes?
No he needs to fight at least one A Level guy to do so! A top 5 MW would do this for him yes and yes, it doesn't have to be Anderson at all.
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No he needs to fight at least one A Level guy to do so! A top 5 MW would do this for him yes and yes, it doesn't have to be Anderson at all.
Do you consider Griffin an A level fighter?
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Do you consider Griffin an A level fighter?
Like I said in my previous posts! Griffin just lost the LHW belt when Anderson challenged him. Of course he was A level! More then that and he still is a top LHW. Dominated Rashad in there fight too, beat Rampage, Shogun and won the Title.
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I agree with cooper, GSP should move up and test himself. it doesn't have to be anderson for the 1st fight, or even at all. but i don't want to seem him fighting and crushing the same guys over and over. or fighting guys who are hyped up because there is no one else (like what happened to anderson).

side note, i'm a gsp fan, but i'm starting to think he's more of an athlete than a figher
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GSP is 29. He could be fighting at the top of his game for another 10 years. To suggest he will be fighting the same dudes at WW all that time is so short sighted that I don't really know how to respond! Madness, I tell you! lol

You know what? Who cares. If these two want to make the fight, I'm happy for them. If they dont, I'm happy for them. thats the long and short of it as far as I'm concerned.
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