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Old 03-05-2011, 10:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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The size difference is too much, I don't think this is debatable. Silva is not lanky, he is a big bloke and cuts a lot to get to 185, he has a lot of room for more weight without sacrificing speed and movement.

You don't see people wanting GSP to fight Quinton Jackson or Shogun Rua, but Anderson walks around at a similar weight to them, and is actually taller than both of them.

GSP on the other hand, is well proportioned at 170 and I reckon you'd see differences in his performance at 185, let alone moving up 2 classes like Silva feasibly could.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:27 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The size difference is too much, I don't think this is debatable. Silva is not lanky, he is a big bloke and cuts a lot to get to 185, he has a lot of room for more weight without sacrificing speed and movement.

You don't see people wanting GSP to fight Quinton Jackson or Shogun Rua, but Anderson walks around at a similar weight to them, and is actually taller than both of them.

GSP on the other hand, is well proportioned at 170 and I reckon you'd see differences in his performance at 185, let alone moving up 2 classes like Silva feasibly could.
as i said, Anderson used to cut to 170, so how is the size that big a deal?? He has a very unique frame, he is very long and slender, he can put on or take off alot of weight.

Anderson should just drop to 170 so ppl will stop saying its such a big deal.

If Jackson could make 185, id like that fight but he cant. Shogun could prob make 185 and i like that fight too.

Ppl acting like when Anderson cuts to 185 he is walking in a 230 or something silly. Or that he should be a HW, which is silly too. He is a big MW, size isnt the be all end all of MMA if they can both make 185 comfortablely then the fight SHOULD happen, for the fans, for the UFC and for the legacy of the sport.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:31 AM   #23 (permalink)
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By all accounts Silva walks around at 230lbs, I wouldn't imagine GSP's weight to be anything close to that when out of training camp.

Reach and general size advantages are massive, Silva also has the advantage in speed/reaction for the stand up (even though GSP has good boxing skills)

It would be a massive fight, don't get me wrong. Their names alone would make it a huge event. I would just honestly rather see Silva tested against bigger guys not fighting someone smaller than those he regularly dismantles, even if that smaller guy is one of the best in the business.
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yes he may walk around out of shape at 230, what does that matter?? Im talking on fight night, what will the weight advantage be if GSP properly (does GSP ever not train or prepare properly???) gains weight and hits up 185.

What will the weight advantage be on fight night?? 10 pounds??? 15 pounds???


man, once GSP puts Anderson on his back (he will) that weight advantage will be negated. Lets make it happen and im backing GSP.

GSP is always hesitant about things, he is a fearful guy. The fear will motivate him to train and gain weight properly and come with the best gameplan possible. It would be a fun fight.


GSP is known to TD guys like Evans and Marquart in training all the time. Think he cant take down Anderson??? Think again!!
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whats not to understand?? the two most dominant fighters in the UFC (and prob UFC history) are a mere 1 weight class apart.

I dont understand so many ppl not wanting to see this fight. The two best fighters in completely different styles, the best grappler in MMA vs the best striker in MMA.

The size advantage isnt a huge deal come fight night. If GSP bulks properly he has a good chance to win this fight with his style.

Also who says he cant just pull a BJ Penn if he loses and head back down to WW and keep defending his title.


I sincerely dont understand ppl that dont want to see this fight. Im guessing its the same ppl delaying Pacquiao vs Mayweather, i mean who wants to see the best 2 fighters in the world go at it while they are both are the top of their games??

Anderson used to fight at 170 btw. Stop with this size talk, he is a lanky MOFO not some huge muscular mofo.
My main reasoning behind not being interested is that both the fighters don't seem keen. In every interview, the response is *never* one of enthusiasm. That right there is enough to put me right off.

Thats before considering the size difference.
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My main reasoning behind not being interested is that both the fighters don't seem keen. In every interview, the response is *never* one of enthusiasm. That right there is enough to put me right off.

Thats before considering the size difference.
just offer them 5mil each + PPV % and put it in Texas Stadium or Rogers centre.

Watch how quickly they get excited.
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yes he may walk around out of shape at 230, what does that matter?? Im talking on fight night, what will the weight advantage be if GSP properly (does GSP ever not train or prepare properly???) gains weight and hits up 185.

What will the weight advantage be on fight night?? 10 pounds??? 15 pounds???


man, once GSP puts Anderson on his back (he will) that weight advantage will be negated. Lets make it happen and im backing GSP.

GSP is always hesitant about things, he is a fearful guy. The fear will motivate him to train and gain weight properly and come with the best gameplan possible. It would be a fun fight.


GSP is known to TD guys like Evans and Marquart in training all the time. Think he cant take down Anderson??? Think again!!
There is more to fighting weight than just what you weigh on the night.

Its about natural strength and power.

Two fighters could each weigh 170 for example but one may be weight drained and weak at that weight while the other at his peak in terms of power and strength.

I think if you look at silva come a given fight night he is hardly shredded, he cuts effectively but has a massive frame, I seriously doubt he is 'out of shape' at 230 its just his natural weight and he shifts a lot.

I think this weght difference is just an indication that Silva is by far the bigger stronger man naturally, and I don't think he loses this when he cuts where as I also doubt GSP would struggle to gain effective mass i.e. the mass would not benefit his performance proportionately.

I think come fight night even if both fighters weighed a simlar amount Silva would still be the much bigger and stronger guy and I would give GSP little chance of winning (only if he could still effectively use his wrestling over 5 rounds somehow)

I am personally much more interested in seeing Silva step up in weight class and fight the likes of Shogun, Rampage, Machida, Evans and Jones. I think each of those fights would excite me more than seeing GSP/Silva...but that's just my perspective.
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just offer them 5mil each + PPV % and put it in Texas Stadium or Rogers centre.

Watch how quickly they get excited.
True. The thing is, this is supposed to be THE mega super duper fight. That it would need $5million to get them up for it is, quite frankly, not hard-on inducing for me as a fan. I want to see GSP's eyes go wide and glazed over when asked about Silva. I want to hear Silva say, "It would be a honour"when asked about GSP. etc.

Instead, we get Meh. Which is how I feel about it.
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Yeah, i'm with Soo on this. The lack of excitement has never really had me too interested in this fight. I think that the concept of this fight is far more appealing than seeing the fight itself. Like has been mentioned Silva is one large guy. He looks less and less lanky everytime I see him in the octagon. I'm not sure if that's to do with age or a bulk programme, but he'd tower over GSP and it would look like more of a mismatch than people imagine. I love GSP but I think he is right to be hesitant in taking such a fight.
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yeah i saw this, i think GSP just doesnt want to move up, he can...but i think he wants to stay at WW, just like AS wants to stay at MW

theres no reason to believe that these guys are ''scared'' they are professional fighters, and the elite of the elite...its pretty silly to say either one of them is scared to fight, i just think they dont see it as a good buisness move...especially GSP because hes risking his whole legacy since he would stay at MW

BUT idk why GSP keeps focusing on the weight thing, hes looking big now! did any1 notice? hes probably already at 200 pounds now...he was 195 after the silva vs belfort ppv...

how much does he want to weigh? why would it take him 6 months to put on 5-10 pounds? he said he wanted to weigh about 205-210...he could easily put that on in less than 6 months, hes already slowly bulking up, every fight hes bigger...

it cant be the weight thing, i just think he really doesnt think this is a smart move at this point in time in his career, hes still young and has many years ahead, he could move up later, its AS' clock thats ticking

just give him okami, then give him JBJ or Shogun, im sure dana wouldnt mind making that fight and neither would AS, he has said he would fight whoever UFC asked him to...so book it man...once they see GSP doesnt want to move up, they will match him up witht he LHW champ..

they want a superfighter one way or another before AS retires
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