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Old 03-08-2011, 06:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Tito is still around because he's very difficult to stop. Only Chuck did it, other losses via stoppages were very long time ago when he was just a kid. At the same time, he hasn't stop anyone himself except Ken, so it's kind of weird. I want fights ending in dramatic fashion and so far Tito has displayed only his ability to survive... but I guess it's the best he's capable of. It would be fun to see him fighting in Strikeforce instead of UFC where he can't do much anymore.

I don't think his still being around has anything to do with his durability in fights, or indeed any aspect of his fight game.

My personal opinion is that he got a fairly lengthy contract purely because he is a big name and was the ultimate love to hate character for many years.

Dana/The UFC no doubt so huge potential to make money off his character by putting him on the TUF with Chuck and figured they could create interest and money from making those two fight a couple more times.

Tito's handling of the cameras and fans is what makes him a big name still, his success in the sport has decline years ago. The last relevant wins I can remember him recording was over Forest and Vitor, both split decisions and both over 5 years ago.

To me, with that sort of fighting record over the last 5 years if he was not a big name because of his persona and mic skills he wouldn't be anywhere near the UFC right now. He s just a fans favourite (hate figure) who has a drawing power because people know him and what to see him (get knocked out)

The fact is that type of pulling power can only last so long wthout actually doing something in the cage, Tito lost the last of his power to attract the attention of fans when he pulled out of the Chuck fight (or if there was some left Forest beat it all to dust) so now it is just a matter of finishing his contract on the undercard and he will be gone have no doubt.
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There isn't a fighter in the LHW division that Tito deserves. Anyone he deserves has already been cut.
stephan bonnar could be a good opponent
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:04 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I don't think his still being around has anything to do with his durability in fights, or indeed any aspect of his fight game.

My personal opinion is that he got a fairly lengthy contract purely because he is a big name and was the ultimate love to hate character for many years.

Dana/The UFC no doubt so huge potential to make money off his character by putting him on the TUF with Chuck and figured they could create interest and money from making those two fight a couple more times.

Tito's handling of the cameras and fans is what makes him a big name still, his success in the sport has decline years ago. The last relevant wins I can remember him recording was over Forest and Vitor, both split decisions and both over 5 years ago.

To me, with that sort of fighting record over the last 5 years if he was not a big name because of his persona and mic skills he wouldn't be anywhere near the UFC right now. He s just a fans favourite (hate figure) who has a drawing power because people know him and what to see him (get knocked out)

The fact is that type of pulling power can only last so long wthout actually doing something in the cage, Tito lost the last of his power to attract the attention of fans when he pulled out of the Chuck fight (or if there was some left Forest beat it all to dust) so now it is just a matter of finishing his contract on the undercard and he will be gone have no doubt.
Right, but what if he had lost to Machida via (T)KO, then to Griffin via (T)KO and to Hamill via (T)KO/submission? Even I would be absolutely disinterested in seeing Tito inside the cage again.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:28 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Right, but what if he had lost to Machida via (T)KO, then to Griffin via (T)KO and to Hamill via (T)KO/submission? Even I would be absolutely disinterested in seeing Tito inside the cage again.
At least he would have been involved in more interesting fights (even if for the wrong reasons)
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No...

Forrest is on a 2 fight win streak that includes kicking Tito around the cage. Tito is 0-4-1 in his last 5 fights. What interest in the world could Forrest have in fighting Tito again besides being almost guaranteed another win.

If Tito was anyone else, he would have been cut by the UFC. He is holding on because of his name, not his fighting skill.
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Seems to me that Tito is trying to call out people that he feels he has a good chance of beating. Anyone with his current record would be on the prelims at best. I say no to him fighting Forrest as well.
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The bottom line is, Tito doesn't really deserve anyone relevant at the LHW division. He has a big name (and head) but his record in the last 5 years is trash.

If he's going to continue to fight in the UFC he needs to work his way back to fighting big names. He needs to fight some lower level guys or other people on shit streaks.
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How about ask Anderson Silva to move up in weight and finish off Tito? Hehe.

Tito is so irrelevant it's annoying. He's lucky he got into MMA when he did to have been as successful as he was.

Focus on your gym Tito, and quit opening your mouth.
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Imagine if he somehow beat Forrest?

I did NOT say he has a chance of beating him, just said if he did.
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Tito is on a what? 6 fight losing streak? While Forrest is on a 2 fight winning streak, one of those wins being against Tito. This fight makes no sense.
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